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How does your school rate?

By rosebud - 28 January 2010 59

I checked out the new My Schools web site to see how the schools in our area are going and compare them to the expensive private schools in the ACT and elsewhere. A bit of a shock! How does your school rate?

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jasmine 11:37 am 09 Feb 10

What about demographics and other differences that might impact on school results. It does not really tell you where the best teachers are. Teachers working in poorer suburbs may be wonderful and achieve better results than a shonky teacher, but this won’t be reflected in a comparative table, when you are being compared with affluent kids with well educated parents.

housebound 6:27 pm 01 Feb 10

To go for the double post – Rudd wants us all to get in on the action and vote for our favourite school.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/01/2807076.htm?section=justin

Perhaps it will be Idol-style sms, and the school with the least votes finids their ‘journey ends here’.

Here’s a good opportunity for the rumourmongers to really get a hearing.

housebound 6:24 pm 01 Feb 10

As an extra note, I’m told this was the hot topic at school today – comparing the ratings from various schools.

GnT 7:08 pm 31 Jan 10

Jim Jones said :

I’m shocked and appalled to learn that 50% of the schools in Australia are below average!

Classic.

They should be publishing a ‘benchmark’, not an average. If we had 100% of schools achieving very highly, we would still have 50% (roughly, let’s not get pedantic) below average.

Special G 6:00 pm 31 Jan 10

Where do the schools sit against the National Benchmark. In the side column of the CT Andrew Barr is quoted talking about schools not meeting the national benchmark and thus being a target for the govt to improve in those areas. I would consider this a far better number to have linked to the stats than the average.

A schools tests results could be skewed significantly by one or two under/over performing children as they are a relatively small sample.

I have two children who will be going to primary school in the next couple of years. The school they are going to is the local one (well next closest as they closed the local one). You can get there crossing the arterial road by underpass and it is close enough to walk still. If they need a bit more help at schooling then they have parents who will take an interest in their education and assist them.

rosebud 9:56 am 31 Jan 10

Mathman said :

Jim Jones said :

I’m shocked and appalled to learn that 50% of the schools in Australia are below average!

I’m shocked and appalled to learn about your poor understanding of statistics!

The median is the measure of which 50% of results are above or below. Average is best though of as the expected result which can be skewed by a couple of very high or low performers.

As I’ve said before, this figures are useless, or worse, misleading, without knowing the distribution.

Ummm, I’m pretty sure that was humour you were experiencing there. OK, it’s not great humour, but it got a chuckle out of me!

nyssa76 3:32 pm 30 Jan 10

It’s a test over 3 days in the life of a student.

That means there are 397 other school days where the student is able to achieve, if not better, than NAPLAN.

The whole thing smacks of league tabling and no surprises there that the CT had printed one the day after the myschool website went online.

The same thing FAILED in the US and UK several years ago……

Mathman 2:01 pm 30 Jan 10

Jim Jones said :

I’m shocked and appalled to learn that 50% of the schools in Australia are below average!

I’m shocked and appalled to learn about your poor understanding of statistics!

The median is the measure of which 50% of results are above or below. Average is best though of as the expected result which can be skewed by a couple of very high or low performers.

As I’ve said before, this figures are useless, or worse, misleading, without knowing the distribution.

Woody Mann-Caruso 9:33 am 30 Jan 10

Note that for some schools on this site the results change dramatically from 2008 to 2009 (different cohort sitting exams, as they only sit them in odd years) thus showing the results are representative of the people who sat the exam, not the school as a whole.

If I saw a dramatic increase in performance from 2008 to 2009 I’d suspect staff had started teaching to the test.

vg 8:37 am 30 Jan 10

emd said :

I was talking to a public primary school principal this morning about the My School website. She said her school hadn’t taught specifically to the NAPLAN tests previously because they wanted a more rounded overall education. They have a large group of special ed students in their school which affects their average. But now they will have to teach specifically to the test in order to get a ranking that attracts more students, and therefore more funding resources. And unlike private schools, they can’t introduce pre-enrolment tests to reject students who will bring their average down.

Other schools in Canberra have English as a Second Language students affecting their average, or are in a suburb with lots of Defence families with kids who have attended lots of schools over a short time affecting their learning. The stats aren’t taking these things into consideration. A simple comparison of cultural background or family income is not as useful if special ed units, or G&T programs, are skewing the school’s average.

Pre-enrolment tests?

Private school all mine and my family’s life. Never one pre-enrolment test.

The sky isn’t falling either.

I found it quite curious that the straw polls conducted on TV saw the parents with kids in highly rated schools happy with the site, and those with lower ranked schools unhappy.

vg 8:33 am 30 Jan 10

JessP said :

Well, my kids school didn’t do so good. But he is doing good. Whatever.

Hopefully better than his parents.

The correct phrase is ‘doing well’

Gerry-Built 8:40 pm 29 Jan 10

OMG – you don’t suppose our ACT Department of Education’s new focus on Literacy and Numeracy has anything to do with improving NAPLAN results to reflect better MySchools results? Nor that its focus on Quality Teaching Framework has anything to do with improving teacher performance for when teachers will (inevitably) have a similar rating scale applied to their performance as Ruddy has previously indicated… no, surely not…

Swaggie 5:11 pm 29 Jan 10

I’m all for it – too many people crying “foul” seems to indicate its a good thing and it’s been an interesting read – I can’t stand the private education system in this town not that you have much choice if you ain’t a catholic but it reconfirmed what I’ve heard about the relative merits of some schools and the general impression gained in the mid winter familiarisation evenings we attended last year. Probably the best thing Ruddy has fronted since he got elected.

miz 4:31 pm 29 Jan 10

Pommy bastard, my sister teaches at Canberra High and after hearing about how the school operates, the poor decision to switch from seven to six lines (limiting electives) etc etc. I am totally UNsurprised.

housebound 3:57 pm 29 Jan 10

Beware of generalisations. Not all private schools have pre-enrolment tests. Some public schools do (or have an equivalent process that achieves the same thing) for out-of-area kids (who constitute most of their enrolments.

Pommy bastard 3:25 pm 29 Jan 10

I’m surprised Canberra High didn’t score better.

emd 2:34 pm 29 Jan 10

I was talking to a public primary school principal this morning about the My School website. She said her school hadn’t taught specifically to the NAPLAN tests previously because they wanted a more rounded overall education. They have a large group of special ed students in their school which affects their average. But now they will have to teach specifically to the test in order to get a ranking that attracts more students, and therefore more funding resources. And unlike private schools, they can’t introduce pre-enrolment tests to reject students who will bring their average down.

Other schools in Canberra have English as a Second Language students affecting their average, or are in a suburb with lots of Defence families with kids who have attended lots of schools over a short time affecting their learning. The stats aren’t taking these things into consideration. A simple comparison of cultural background or family income is not as useful if special ed units, or G&T programs, are skewing the school’s average.

mutley 2:32 pm 29 Jan 10

Jim Jones said :

I’m shocked and appalled to learn that 50% of the schools in Australia are below average!

Wouldn’t that be below median?

silvernitrate 2:17 pm 29 Jan 10

this site is absolute rubbish
people (should) know that students, especially in high school, do not give a damn about these tests. i myself think its a waste of time. they are ridiculously easy, esp the numeracy ones.

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