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Letterdrop: Thinking Voting for Greens?

By jemmy 18 November 2007 37

I got a pamphlet in the letterbox today, Thinking about voting for the Greens? It was about the risk a voter takes by voting Greens in the Senate and giving them the balance of power. It hits at the Labor Party for dealing with the Greens. Fair enough, get the info out there for all to see. Everyone’s got a right to an opinion, surely.

It has the usual mish-mash of irrelevent associations, quotes from several years ago, and absurd “A implies B, therefore B implies A” logic fallacies. We’re all pretty used to it by now, I guess. Even though mud-slinging irritates me enormously, we won’t see it reduce because research shows that character assassination does work in elections. There are very good reasons why, and they don’t say much that is good about the human condition, but that’s a topic for another day. Mud-slinging does work, that’s why American election ads are almost all negative ones, and we’re going that way too.

However, although irritated already, it irks me more when the mud-slingers try to hide and don’t even have the courage to show themselves. The pamphlet has no party logo and is written by an individual, Andrew Heath, who I’ve never heard of.

A quick google search shows he is not only a Liberal Party official, he is the Campaign Director for this election! An anonymous pamphlet critical of the Greens and Labor, written by the Liberal’s Campaign Director.

Heath, at least have the courage of your convictions and reveal yourself when you write these things. I might think a bit more of you than a bit of a cowardly-custard.

UPDATED –
There is a letter in today’s The Age, “Ssh, It’s the Liberals” complaining about the same anonymous pamphlet, except that their pamphlet comes from a Julian Sheezel who is the State Director in the Vic Liberals.

Perhaps Andrew Heath isn’t acting alone but is part of an organised campaign arranged to take place around the nation. All in all, it appears there are sneaky antics afoot. Come on Libs, don’t hide behind tricky pamphlets, be plain and upfront.

(The letter writer expresses the view that the pamphlet’s colour of green has been intentionally chosen to be misleading. He also has an interesting slant that the pamphlet demonstrates that the Liberals believe they have lost the election because it mentions Labor and Greens in power, which is a no-no for spin coming from an opposing party.)

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Holden Caulfield 3:57 pm 05 Dec 07

A bit late on this one, but I was pretty pissed off at this pamphlet. Well, actually I wasn’t, I was rather too cynical about it all. But my wife was pretty angry about it. And Humphries’ efforts at defending the brochure on 666 were pretty feeble it has to be said.

I wrote an angry email to him, Lundy and Tucker explaining why I thought his brochure stinks and asked that whoever won the Senate seats ensured they look into making political material such as this have greater transparency.

Let’s see what happens.

Mælinar 8:58 am 21 Nov 07

The simple fact is that the Liberals are scared that the Greens will get in on the donkeys back.

Frankly, I can’t blame them – they have made a lot of electoral enemies in the last decade of power.

thetruth 11:46 pm 20 Nov 07

Dont’ know what happened there the correct order of the last post was:

Not really Caf – Just saw it for what it was a big power game (despite some really talented top rate people being in there). Some of my friends stayed in hoping to fix it from the inside, but they were slowly beaten down.

Hell even Crean couldn’t reform it – he was knifed for trying to push through the Wran – Hawke reforms.

I agree that the labor party is not a social democratic party. Their website says:

“The Australian Labor Party has been a mainstay of political life in Australia for well over one hundred years. It is one of a small group of genuine labour parties around the world which provides for the direct affiliation of trade unions, incorporating them into the structure of the party.

This distinguishes labour parties from social democratic parties, although many have common ideals and philosophies, and from other broadly-based progressive parties like the Democratic Party in the United”

So I will not (can not) join. I personally think it is a weakness, but then the polls would suggest the most do not give a toss

thetruth 11:41 pm 20 Nov 07

Not really Caf – Just saw it for what it was a big power game (despite some really talented top rate people being in there). Some of my friends stayed in hoping to fix it from the inside, but they were slowly beaten down.

Hell even Crean couldn’t reform it – he was knifed for trying to push through the Wran – Hawke reforms.

“I agree that the labor party is not a social democratic party. There website says:

The Australian Labor Party has been a mainstay of political life in Australia for well over one hundred years. It is one of a small group of genuine labour parties around the world which provides for the direct affiliation of trade unions, incorporating them into the structure of the party.

So will it is not I will not (can not) join. I personally think it is a weakness, but then the polls would suggest the most do not give a toss
This distinguishes labour parties from social democratic parties, although many have common ideals and philosophies, and from other broadly-based progressive parties like the Democratic Party in the United States.”

boomacat 11:08 pm 20 Nov 07

I love the “Only Liberals Like Gary Nairn are tough on crime – Labor is soft on crime” – what? You guys must be desperate – crime is clearly a State responsibility and NSW (under State Labor) has one of the harshest criminal justice systems in Australia.

Deadmandrinking 2:50 pm 20 Nov 07

Did anyone get the pamphlet about ‘teaching stanhope a lesson’ at the federal election?

Uh, I might teach Howard a lesson at the FEDERAL election…

philbert83au 1:36 pm 20 Nov 07

Can anyone beat 8 letters from Gary Nairn in the last two months? Plus umpteen leaflets in the mailbox…

caf 10:34 am 20 Nov 07

Student unions and trade unions are very different things.

Anyway, like it or not, the fact that you quit the CPSU rather than attempt to work inside it to improve it means you don’t really agree with the ideals of the Labour movement. As much as you’d like the ALP to be the “Social Democratic Party”, it’s not. (By the way, I’m not an ALP member *or* a union member)

thetruth 10:31 pm 19 Nov 07

that we was a typo – brain moves faster than fingers

thetruth 10:30 pm 19 Nov 07

We I was in the Public Service and had stopped my membership of the CPSU after the union rep was caught talking about her plan to stop a promotion of a work college. I was also once in the Storeman and Packers union because they would not let me work without membership. Strange I also couldn’t go to uni with union membership.

There is a pattern, which many do not remember

areaman 10:15 pm 19 Nov 07

Like I said you have to be in your union if you can be, it’s not usually investigated though.

I always loved rule e), you can still be in the PLO and a member of the ALP.

thetruth 8:51 pm 19 Nov 07

I was refused membership -true. Each state and Territory requires it.

Here are the requirements out of the ACT constitution.

3.1 Individual Membership
(1) Any person may apply for individual membership of the ACT Branch if they are:
a) a resident of the ACT; and
b) 15 years of age or over; and
c) correctly enrolled with the Australian Electoral Commission at their stated
address unless not entitled because they are less than 18 years of age or not
an Australian citizen.
d) a financial member of a union covering their occupation, trade or profession if
they are eligible to join a union, or have made all attempts to encourage their
employees to join a trade union and the applicant observes union conditions if
they are an employer; and
e) not a member of any other political party or any organisation proscribed by
ACT Branch Conference, unless the organisation is a fellow party of the
Socialist International.

barney 7:31 pm 19 Nov 07

Voting for the Greens makes you a queer, and voting for Labor will kill us all. Best off voting for Howard and Costello who can manage the economy. If Labor gets in, Australia will go backwards 200 years . We’ll all be living in tents, millions of foreigners will infest the country, unions will run rampant killing everybody etc etc.

John Howard and Costello. What utter magicians. Amazingly outstanding economic managers….

What would they do without the mining boom. How good an economic hero would Howard be without China buying all our coal.

What the fuk has Howard ever done about the climate issue ? SELL SELL SELL COAL COAL COAL …

areaman 5:35 pm 19 Nov 07

Tap, i think the rule is that if you’re in an industry that has a union you’re supposed to be in a union. If you’re self employed, retired or in an industry without out clear ACTU cover then you don’t.

tap 4:39 pm 19 Nov 07

The person who calls him/herself the truth, (im not calling you the truth… sorry)

Thats interesting you weren’t allowed to join the labor party because you aren’t in a union. I was…

54-11 4:38 pm 19 Nov 07

Who was it that was called “mean and tricky” and the “lying rodent” by his own side? Just more of the same, from more of the same. Turkeys.

Mr Evil 4:20 pm 19 Nov 07

Junk mail often keeps me entertained while I’m on the toilet.

The Liberals really have sunk to quite a low level in many ways this election.

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