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Obesity aspirations

johnboy 14 October 2013 53

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Chief Minister Gallagher has unveiled a plan to enable droves of public servants to pretend to be doing something about obesity in the ACT.

(Which is a farce because the BMI records people at peak fitness as being obese but moving on…)

The laughably named “key actions” include:

    — improve the availability of healthy food and drink options in ACT Government workplaces and events

    — implement a Chief Minister’s award scheme to reward healthy workplaces and food outlets

    — develop and implement an ACT Government school food and drink policy with supporting guidelines that will mandate the implementation of the National Healthy School Canteen guidelines in ACT schools

    — the creation of new incentives for ACT workers and/or workplaces to participate in physical activity or active travel

    — introduce health risk assessments for ACT Government staff with a view to extend these to the private sector

    — restrict the advertising of unhealthy foods within the government’s regulatory control; and,

    — improve awareness, skills and capability across the ACT in buying and preparing healthy food

    We look forward to the health risk assessments of the ACT’s bus drivers.

[Photo by Tobyotter CC BY 2.0]

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zllauh 4:04 pm 08 Sep 15

Only if people started to take a look in the mirror and observe closely , what are they doing to themselves.
Hit the gym hard, beast mode on (Y) .
internet and junk food has already caused many problems

watto23 12:52 pm 16 Oct 13

The metabolism arguments are based on fact, however as many say its easy to blame a slow metabolism on being overweight. As it is life is unfair and if your metabolism is slow like mine, you need to work harder to keep your weight down. However I do get annoyed by people who think its all about eating less. Some people have mental health issues and want to kill themselves, others just eat more everyone deals with these things differently. The idea that obese people can just stop eating is not going to help the situation. I have found the nutritional info handy around town. Although I think some people don’t get it, when they think a double meat footlong sub with double cheese is healthy 🙂

Maybe health insurance premiums could be based on an optional health and fitness test. I can tell you now a lot of skinny people out there would fail a fitness test easily.

carnardly 11:42 am 16 Oct 13

BimboGeek said :

/Sure as heck isn’t the marathon, hurdles or gymnastics competitors…

of course it could be track cyclists too. Have you seen the legs on those people?

BimboGeek 8:48 am 16 Oct 13

miz said :

Apparently olympic athletes, according to the BMI, are obese.

Is that the shooters or the hammer throwers?

/Sure as heck isn’t the marathon, hurdles or gymnastics competitors…

Thumper 8:33 am 16 Oct 13

miz said :

Apparently olympic athletes, according to the BMI, are obese, which shows how useless it is. For example, “BMI also does not account for body frame size; a person may have a small frame and be carrying more fat than optimal, but their BMI reflects that they are normal. Conversely, a large framed individual may be quite healthy with a fairly low body fat percentage, but be classified as overweight by BMI.” (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index under ‘Limitations and Shortcomings’).
I personally wouldn’t make any life decisions based on BMI.

You don’t need BMI to tell you you’re fat. A mirror will do that nicely.

Thumper 8:32 am 16 Oct 13

gazket said :

look at the pic, they even linked fat people with smoking, well done.

When I was a pack a day smoker I was built like a whippet.

Now I’m a slightly pudgy whippet 🙂

gazket 12:35 am 16 Oct 13

look at the pic, they even linked fat people with smoking, well done.

gazket 12:32 am 16 Oct 13

“restrict foods within the government’s regulatory control”

Good old commy Labor, they just love handing out restrictions.

miz 8:45 pm 15 Oct 13

Apparently olympic athletes, according to the BMI, are obese, which shows how useless it is. For example, “BMI also does not account for body frame size; a person may have a small frame and be carrying more fat than optimal, but their BMI reflects that they are normal. Conversely, a large framed individual may be quite healthy with a fairly low body fat percentage, but be classified as overweight by BMI.” (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index under ‘Limitations and Shortcomings’).
I personally wouldn’t make any life decisions based on BMI.

watto23 5:20 pm 15 Oct 13

My BMI has me as obese, but i can do 50 pushups in a minute and run 5kms. I’m not that muscly or toned, i do have some weight around the belly, but I’m fit, I run and exercise. The elite athlete arguement is bogus, plenty of fit people are obese on the BMI.

Then I see all the skinny people who eat takeway food but are lucky to be a different body type and have a different metabolism. I know a few people who eat KFC, maccas etc for lunch every day. skinny as a rake, have the worst diets and never use stairs. I’m sorry that is not healthy at all.

I watch the calories I eat, I’m still trying to lose another 10 kgs, yet if we went by BMI I’d be obese and seriously I’m far healthier than many apparently “normal people”. In fact around 30% of obese people are fit and healthy. also around 30% in the normal range are not fit and healthy.

What we need to do is provide more incentives for people to eat healthy and exercise. Also people with weight issues, often have mental issues as well. Just like smokers or people with anorexia. Its just a hell of a lot easier to get overweight. I’ve got no problems with taxing unhealthy food, but thinking that hiding the lollies from 1 cash register really is a token effort that will not change a thing.

PBO 2:54 pm 15 Oct 13

Apologies for my spelling, it seems that my fingers are too fat to type properly.

zorro29 11:22 am 15 Oct 13

What a load of rubbish (the comments/tone of OP, not the initiatives).

You can’t have it both ways – expect the govt to “butt out” when it suits you (like what to weigh/eat etc) and then demand their help when you clog our health system with obesity related issues that are a substantial burden on tax payers.

Being healthy isn’t just about weight, it’s about health. It doesn’t hurt anyone to be more active and eat better foods.

I go for a 5km walk before work, cycle to and from work, walk during lunch, and then jog in the evenings….then cycle and row on weekends. I also manage the foods I eat and balance junk with more nutritious options. I seldom get sick or have any health issues at all.

I see what people are saying about BMI…but I also assume most of you aren’t Olympic weightlifters.

I have no issues with the government implementing initiatives like this to encourage healthier lifestyles…but if they were serious they would make healthy/fresh foods much cheaper than junk food, subsidise healthy food outlets (so salads are cheaper to buy than Big Mac meals), reduce the number of drive-thru outlets there are, give tax breaks to people who maintain healthy lifestyles/don’t use the healthy system for lifestyle diseases, and improve the quality and availability of exercise spaces.

Reality is that health starts in the home and with the individual…but, if people don’t help themselves, the government has the right to mitigate the cost of obesity on our nation with initiatives.

Here_and_Now 10:38 am 15 Oct 13

YeahBuddy said :

And I don’t buy your “but its my genetics” argument. I family members (ok maybe aunts and cousins) that are HUGE big fatties, but I well within my healthy weight range, and so are my kids. Its lifesyle fatso’s, NO MORE EXCUSES

There are, of course, genetic and metabolic conditions that lead to “obesity” even in the face of a healthy lifestyle. But there also those who find out these conditions exist and self-diagnose as an excuse to not try.

Which, of course, leads to further stigma for those few with genuine conditions, as the uninformed tar them with the same brush as the “dont want to” crowd.

Here_and_Now 10:32 am 15 Oct 13

shauno said :

I maintain for the left that want to control and regulate every aspect of our lives they may as well build a massive prison and place every Australian in a padded cell for life and their job is done. Full control will have been accomplished.

Did you read the linked document? I see encouragement, not “control”. If that’s “control”, the people have some pretty weak resistance.

(Link between not reading reference material and blaming “the left”? May be a trend. As Rorschach would say, must investigate further.)

Though you didn’t actually use the words “nanny state”, so I’m not sure if I need to take a sip in the drinking game.

shauno 8:49 am 15 Oct 13

I maintain for the left that want to control and regulate every aspect of our lives they may as well build a massive prison and place every Australian in a padded cell for life and their job is done. Full control will have been accomplished.

HiddenDragon 10:27 pm 14 Oct 13

There’s also the potential indignity of computer-generated bifurcation:

http://au.totaltravel.yahoo.com/travel-ideas/news-opinions/news/a/-/19387714/airline-allocates-overweight-man-two-seats-different-rows/?Src=y7homepage

…having visions of battery-powered scooters a la Malcolm:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3807325-v

Deborah 10:02 pm 14 Oct 13

BimboGeek said :

Anyway as I said, the gov wants you to measure your waist for a better indicator of your overall health. Mine’s 93cm, what’s yours?

http://www.measureup.gov.au/internet/abhi/publishing.nsf/Content/Weight,+waist+circumference+and+BMI-lp

And as for judging fat people harshly, that’s not going to help. They are suffering an eating disorder and you don’t yell at anorexics or bulimics, you just gently help them see that they have a problem and it is possible for them to get better. You don’t ignore it either. When I spent a month losing a kg a week my boyfriend at the time decided that’s enough and took me to the doctor. What do you do to help when an already chubby friend gains weight at this alarming rate? I’m so dysmorphic that I’m not much good at identifying when an overweight person gains or loses a bit so I rely on you (normal people) to help them.

I wish RA had a like button.

chilli 9:02 pm 14 Oct 13

As an alternative policy approach, I find putting on a nice pair of high heels a terrific way to improve my BMI.

BimboGeek 5:24 pm 14 Oct 13

Anyway as I said, the gov wants you to measure your waist for a better indicator of your overall health. Mine’s 93cm, what’s yours?

http://www.measureup.gov.au/internet/abhi/publishing.nsf/Content/Weight,+waist+circumference+and+BMI-lp

And as for judging fat people harshly, that’s not going to help. They are suffering an eating disorder and you don’t yell at anorexics or bulimics, you just gently help them see that they have a problem and it is possible for them to get better. You don’t ignore it either. When I spent a month losing a kg a week my boyfriend at the time decided that’s enough and took me to the doctor. What do you do to help when an already chubby friend gains weight at this alarming rate? I’m so dysmorphic that I’m not much good at identifying when an overweight person gains or loses a bit so I rely on you (normal people) to help them.

farout 3:42 pm 14 Oct 13

PBO has a point. And makes it well.

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