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Preparing to vote Labor or Liberal – Surely there is something better?

By The Frots - 12 May 2011 15

Well, in reviewing the budget and also getting the published highlights from what is to be the response tonight by Abbott, it really makes me wonder which way I will vote at our next elections.

The Labour/Greens Federal Party is just so on the nose that it would be physically impossible to make a vote for them – they have continually lied and mislead the public since (and before for that matter) their last election.  Voting them back in would be like selecting your choice of cancer.

But now Abbott’s views of dismissing 12,000 public servants is just so ridiculous and out of touch that I would need to swallow really hard to make the Liberals a first choice.  To lose 12K and the impacts it would have on Canberra just isn’t worth thinking about – and to be honest as a head representative of the Australian people he just doesn’t make the cut. The Liberals really need to start making a change at the top as a lot of people just find Abbott far to difficult to vote for.

So, what are the alternatives for us in Canberra? Unless we get some light emerging from the political darkness that is our federal political landscape, we are heading to yet another election period which, unbelieveably, will be worse than the last.

Just what is the most promising Party for Canberra….?

What’s Your opinion?


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15 Responses to
Preparing to vote Labor or Liberal – Surely there is something better?
Thoroughly Smashed 3:00 pm 12 May 11

D2 said :

I’ll be voting for The Australian Sex Party. It’s the only party firmly based on fundamental human rights.

You’ll have to wait until they field a candidate in the ACT first…

housebound 2:11 pm 12 May 11

Nope. Nothing better. And if anyone dares try, they would find it very hard to get a run in today’s media.

The Frots 1:53 pm 12 May 11

Gungahlin Al said :

I saw Joe Hockey’s 12,000 jobs remark yesterday and thought “this guy has been reading up on How to Win Friends and Influence People”. Not.

Frots, I would revisit your assertion #1 (par 2) and break it down, then have a closer look (e.g. search sites for policy, etc) at whether it is based on accuracy or heresay.

Al, have done and it isn’t any better. Anyway, we’ll see what comes over the next months/years until we go to the polls again. Just hard to believe that we have such poor quality leadership in each of the parties – it really defies belief.

More interesting though is that if we see it that way, why don’t the power-brokers who are so ready to oust them when THEY don’t like them. Don’t get me wrong, Rudd needed to go (and quickly in my view) but to have both of these leaders facing up at the wicket again next time around just seems preposterous.

“The current Labor mob are about as useful as a cock flavoured lollipop, but the Libs don’t seem to be fielding anyone any better” – George, couldn’t have phrased it better!!!

neanderthalsis 1:27 pm 12 May 11

Given that previous government have talked tough on the bloated public service and the need to take a “meat axe” to it, we have never had one brave enough to actually make significant and lasting cuts. Howard cut quite a few jobs but they were back soon after, Kevin came up with his efficiency dividend which saw no real change and I doubt that Abbott as PM would do anything much in reducing real numbers, probably just a recruitment freeze, offer a few redundancy packages and sack some Dept heads who may be a little to Labor for his liking. After settling into office, he’d have numbers on the up to drive what ever pet projects they come up with.

EvanJames 1:14 pm 12 May 11

While Abbott and co are trumpeting stuff that’s arrant nonsense, you hvae to remember that if they get into government, they WILL do something. The trick is, finding out what it is that the will do. If they treat the voters as idiots who can be bribed with handouts, and people vote based on that, then they’re right.

You have to put in some effort to find out what it is that they will do. Once they’re in, it’s too late.

rosscoact 12:52 pm 12 May 11

Thumper said :

dismissing 12,000 public servants

Won’t happen.

And Canberra will still vote ALP, no matter what.

Keating and Howard between them cut PS numbers by over 40,000. The Federal PS is at about the same numbers as 1989

D2 12:42 pm 12 May 11

I’ll be voting for The Australian Sex Party. It’s the only party firmly based on fundamental human rights.

georgesgenitals 12:32 pm 12 May 11

It’s a shame really that the media seems to do the majority of reporting in soundbites and loaded questions. Among both parties there are some quite clever and useful humans, but that doesn’t make for good telly.

I have no idea who I’ll vote for next election. The current Labor mob are about as useful as a cock flavoured lollipop, but the Libs don’t seem to be fielding anyone any better.

Gungahlin Al 12:26 pm 12 May 11

I saw Joe Hockey’s 12,000 jobs remark yesterday and thought “this guy has been reading up on How to Win Friends and Influence People”. Not.

Frots, I would revisit your assertion #1 (par 2) and break it down, then have a closer look (e.g. search sites for policy, etc) at whether it is based on accuracy or heresay.

The Frots 12:11 pm 12 May 11

Thumper said :

dismissing 12,000 public servants

Won’t happen.

And Canberra will still vote ALP, no matter what.

Agreed that its absurd Thumper to even mention it let alone consider it. And that’s part of the point – surely when we have a possible alternative Government sitting in the waiting room (Liberals – Federally) then letting Abbott (or anyone) state these types of things simply ensures that we view them as idiots – given someone with some credibility in Oppostion may have a much better chance, certain to persuade me anyway.

At the moment, and given that we have a way to go before the next election (not counting any dissolution beforehand that is), I am at a loss as to why each party isn’t ‘strenghtening’ their leadership with people who have some degree of common sense and aren’t as unpredictable as these lot are.

And yes, CSR, I do remember them – and if Chipp was still around, or at least his philosophy, then I wouldn’t be surprised if they were now a majority party. That’s probably the alternative we need – another ‘Chipp’ so to speak emerging from the darkness and ‘keeping the bastards honest’.

DarkLadyWolfMother 11:58 am 12 May 11

they have continually lied and mislead the public since (and before for that matter) their last election
This is hardly unique to Labour/Greens. I’m sure most folks can point to their favourite most-hated party and highlight the porkies that have flowed from both election campaigns, and while in office.

I’m cynical enough to take it as read that most things that a politician says can’t be trusted. From that, you can only go by actions – i.e. what they’ve done in the past, not what they say they’ll do. It’s all you can really do.

colourful sydney rac 11:35 am 12 May 11

The problem is that under the current system there is no alternative, the ACT will return two ALP members federally and one ALP and one Liberal Senator – there was an aberration in 1995 that saw Brendan Smyth elected but aside from that we have had 3 Labor and 1 Coalition federal parliamentarian for as long as I can remember.

If you are looking for an alternative beyond the ALP, Coalition and Greens, you are going to have to remain disappointed or move elsewhere.

The Hare Clarke system may give you more hope at the ACT level, however it seems that the calibre of the non-Labor, Liberal, Green members elected is pretty low as well, from the well intentioned but highly ineffective Democrat (remember them?) Roslyn Dundas to that grade A buffon Dave Rugendyke.

Thumper 11:07 am 12 May 11

dismissing 12,000 public servants

Won’t happen.

And Canberra will still vote ALP, no matter what.

EvanJames 11:07 am 12 May 11

It’s often a good idea to take a more global view. I know “what’s in it for me” is the new way of thinking, but it might be helpful to look at the wider context. What do they stand for? What’s their track record? What aren’t they saying?

If you focus on the things the media wants you to focus on, you are letting the media set the agenda, and I can guarantee there’s NOTHING in that for you, or Canberra, or anyone.

the way the media shapes our view was brougth home to me, yet again, as I sat in parly house and listened to the PM and then her health ministers discuss the new mental health measures last night. without media editing of what was said, I found them all to be smart, with excellent depth of knowledge of the topic, they were funny and cracked jokes. I miss jokes, seems nowadays they don’t dare crack jokes when they are being official because someone will seize it and hold it up for Outrage Value.

Chances are, my view of the various liberals and nationals is also slanted by what the media lets us see of them.

So I go back to what they stand for, what they actually DO rather then the platitudinous slogans they chant.

And since the Liberals, Labor and increasingly, the Greens don’t really do it for me, I have joined the Stable Population Party and that’s who I’ll be voting for. Like Tony Windsor said, we have power when we use our vote to break away from the main, fat, complacent parties.

alaninoz 10:49 am 12 May 11

I have no idea if Abbott’s idea of dismissing 12,000 public servants is reasonable or not. I doubt it as it’s unlikely that he’ll reduce the ridiculous demands that governments place on public servants. Arguing against it on the basis of the effect on Canberra is ridiculous though. If they are needed to provide the services then keep them. If not, then dismiss them. Public servants are there to provide a public services, and not the service of keeping the Canberra economy afloat.

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