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By weeziepops 17 March 2009 95

If I enter a roundabout in the right hand lane and have my right indicator flashing, can I then go straight through the roundabout (opting, perhaps, to indicate left as I exit the other side)? 

I thought I could, but the consistent failure of fellow drivers to consider that I may be going straight through instead of turning right has caused me to wonder… 

[ED – most people will take a right hand indicator as an… err… indication you wish to turn right. But I leave it up to the road rules nerds to clear this up]

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GB 11:42 am 19 Mar 09

astrojax said :

be nice, and practice good habits – wouldn’t the road be a nice place if everyone did this?

Indeed so, much better than “my instructor told me not to in 1976” or “the rules don’t say you have to”.

Actually, “be nice, and practice good habits” would help quite a lot of things in the world… oops, sorry, just dreaming there.

astrojax 9:54 am 19 Mar 09

all excellent reasons for indicating, hax, bravo – at least i don’t feel isolated in adopting deckard’s philosophy – which is exactly what my dad always used to say: ‘it’s nice to be nice”…

so, from the number of times you’re likely to be wanting to indicate in this situation, one moves smoothly into the ‘always indicate’ mindset to practice pretty well non-consciously what you’d want to happen in pretty well most circumstances (kinda like trying not to run over white lines if you can help on a m/cyle as, in the wet, this default mindset will help you make faster decisions about where to steer your vehicle)

doesn’t one?

be nice, and practice good habits – wouldn’t the road be a nice place if everyone did this?

hax 2:21 am 19 Mar 09

Deckard said :

I guess the nice thing to do would be to indicate.

For a form one lane..
If there’s a car in front of me, I indicate to say “I’m not going to put my foot down at the last second and try and get in front of you”
If there’s a car behind me, I indicate to say “Don’t put your foot down at the last second and try to pass me”

Actually, if there’s a car in front and nobody behind me I just change into the same lane before the form one lane so we can get through smoothly without the need to slow down.

Deckard 9:40 pm 18 Mar 09

Reading it again, we might need a legal ruling on the difference between ‘Be prepared to’ and ‘Required’. Because I would have thought looking when forming 1 lane would be required.

I guess the nice thing to do would be to indicate.

Deckard 9:36 pm 18 Mar 09

Got it working.

It says that in a form one lane situation ‘Be prepared to use lane changing
procedures in this situation, ie using your mirrors, indicators and doing a head check.’

Where the merge right rule says ‘Lane changing procedures are required when one lane ends and you are required to merge into another lane. This includes indicating and head checks.

So I’d read that as an optional on the form one lane indicating. ie, indicate if there’s a car near you.

SheepGroper 9:33 pm 18 Mar 09

My instructor taught me up to around two years ago, and he insisted I indicate, but then it may have been part of the concept of being a good citizen on the road that he was beating into me.

Deckard 9:23 pm 18 Mar 09

Early 90’s. I remember my instructor telling me that some people do indicate but it’s not in the road rules that you have to.

Am having problems with my acrobat reader so can’t get on the ACT Rules site to check if it’s still the case.

SheepGroper 9:17 pm 18 Mar 09

When were you taught that?

Deckard 9:13 pm 18 Mar 09

astrojax said :

aah, yes, not questioning the zipper principle, which is entirely effective and egalitarian; but whose responsibility to indicate is it??

I was taught that you don’t need to indicate in a form 1 lane situation.

vg 7:13 pm 18 Mar 09

Turning left at a roundabout indicate left and turn left. Turning right indicate right and turn right. Going straight ahead, don’t indicate and proceed ahead.

If you’re turning left or going straight ahead get in the left lane. If you are turning right get in the right lane.

Follow these simple rules and all will be in a happy place.

Yes, you can go straight ahead in the right lane of a roundaboout but why not make it simple and get in the left lane unless you physically can’t turn right

Woody Mann-Caruso 7:06 pm 18 Mar 09

Try including the next sentence which obviously should be read in conjunction with the one you quoted

Look, try to keep up with me here.

You said, and I quote – again: ““if you are going straight through a roundabout you indicate right when entering”.

Now, for the second time, you’re claiming that this is the exactly the same as the road rules that say you should:

– indicate left or right when entering a roundabout if you intend to turn left or right; and
– you should indicate left immediately before exiting a roundabout.

Could you point out the part that actually says what you said? The part about indicating right when entering to turn straight? Because all I see is a rule about indicating right when you’re going to turn right.

I’m worried you’ll wipe yourself out on a roundabout before I get a straight answer.

Grrrr 6:27 pm 18 Mar 09

kramer – it is NOT current Australian road rules to indicate right when intending to go ahead, and it has not been the rule in Vic. National Rules can be found here http://www.ntc.gov.au/filemedia/Reports/ARR_February_2009_final.pdf – page 112 of the PDF is what you’re after.

I’m curious as to where people really get this idea from. Obviously no-one here is admitting to doing it. I’ve seen non-geriatric drivers do it, and recently..

Another thing that gets to me is people indicating a Right Turn late, IE waiting until already in the intersection. That’s a good way to get run into by an oncoming driver.

Also, people who ignore the double white lines usually found in the last 10 metres before a roundabout – I have seen plenty of drivers overtaking bike riders there. (Never mind the odd idiot trying to overtake in the rider’s lane on a roundabout!)

Lastly, I’d like to remind a certain motorbike rider out there that they don’t have way over push bikes just because they feel like it. Picture this: Red lights, push bike waiting to take off from the left lane. Couple of cars waiting in the right lane. Motor bike approaching from behind in the left lane. Lights go green, everyone takes off – and will soon merge into one lane. Motorbike coming up from behind speeds up and gets on his horn to try and get the bike rider out of his way, so he can beat the cars into the single lane. Fortunately he sneaks past without hitting anyone.

SheepGroper 5:49 pm 18 Mar 09

I was taught both have to indicate too, and that’s as recently as a little over two years ago.

caf 3:34 pm 18 Mar 09

Both. At least with the ACT-style “form-one-lane” where neither lane continues.

astrojax 3:31 pm 18 Mar 09

aah, yes, not questioning the zipper principle, which is entirely effective and egalitarian; but whose responsibility to indicate is it??

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