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Speeding fines in the ACT?

By Juliagulia - 17 October 2010 70

My sister in law received a speeding fine in the mail recently, after a visit to Canberra.

She was clocked at 91 in an 80 zone  and received a fine of $745.00.

Is this normal for the ACT?

It was not during a double demerit period and she was on the main road near Cockington Green.

What’s Your opinion?


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Speeding fines in the ACT?
toriness 7:21 pm 17 Oct 10

Mr Gillespie said :

Tooks, it is revenue-raising if the limit is exceeded by only a slight amount and you still get fined.

If you want me to apply an arbitrary figure in this case, doing 100 in an 80 zone is speeding, but 91 is a bit of a grey area.

what a load of rubbish. what, you expect the laws to articulate along the lines of what you’re saying “if you speed over X amount by Y amount, we won’t fine you, but if it’s Z amount over that’s DEFINITELY against the law and we’ll fine you”. get at the back of the line with the rest of the excuse-makers, mr gillespie.

Woody Mann-Caruso 6:37 pm 17 Oct 10

91 in an 80 zone is bugger-all, it’s just revenue-raising and that’s that.

91 in an 80 zone is an extra 10m to stop (dry road, car with ABS). Wet road? That’ll be an extra 14m. If you don’t think it sounds like much, stand in front of your car then pace it out. Have a guess what speed you’re doing when you pass through the point at which you would’ve come to a complete stop had you been doing 80.

fluey 6:27 pm 17 Oct 10

creative_canberran said :

Normal fine in ACT for exceeding limit by 15km/h or less is $157 and 1 point. Further, you receive 20pu (criminal penalty units).

In NSW, they charge $211 for this and by court order can increase that to over $2000, so the ACT is actually quite soft.

1 pu = $110
so 20 pu = $2200

ACT and NSW are pretty on par from my view.

Also, a court can only increase the penalty if the offender opposes the fine and it goes to court. If you pay the infringement notice, the court can’t just decide to make you pay more.

Mr Gillespie 5:46 pm 17 Oct 10

creative_canberran said :

……”The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h”

Source: NSW RTA/NRMA

In fine conditions where everything is going normally, there may be bugger all difference practically between 80 and 91. It’s the 1% of the time where something unexpected happens (kangeroo on road, car enters from side street…) where that small difference in speed will help make the difference between stopping in time, stopping slow enough for crumple zones to work and not stopping and crushing a family driving home.

You better check your speedo for accuracy, and keep an eagle eye on your speedo then.

jake555 5:22 pm 17 Oct 10

I know, I know, it’s been done to death, but “Let Me Google That For You”
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=act+speed+camera+fine

creative_canberran 5:17 pm 17 Oct 10

Normal fine in ACT for exceeding limit by 15km/h or less is $157 and 1 point. Further, you receive 20pu (criminal penalty units).

In NSW, they charge $211 for this and by court order can increase that to over $2000, so the ACT is actually quite soft.

Fines increase substantially if the vehicle is medium of heavy rigid, commercial and so on. Serious late penalties apply to, over $500 for commercial vehicle owners.

Mr Gillespie said :

91 in an 80 zone is bugger-all, it’s just revenue-raising and that’s that.

“The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h”

Source: NSW RTA/NRMA

In fine conditions where everything is going normally, there may be bugger all difference practically between 80 and 91. It’s the 1% of the time where something unexpected happens (kangeroo on road, car enters from side street…) where that small difference in speed will help make the difference between stopping in time, stopping slow enough for crumple zones to work and not stopping and crushing a family driving home.

Mr Gillespie 4:37 pm 17 Oct 10

Tooks, it is revenue-raising if the limit is exceeded by only a slight amount and you still get fined.

If you want me to apply an arbitrary figure in this case, doing 100 in an 80 zone is speeding, but 91 is a bit of a grey area.

Tooks 3:52 pm 17 Oct 10

Mr Gillespie said :

91 in an 80 zone is bugger-all, it’s just revenue-raising and that’s that.

So what speed isn’t just revenue raising? Please share. 93? 94? 100?

georgesgenitals 3:43 pm 17 Oct 10

Almost certainly the car is business rego, and thus the fine is much higher. Of course, we can use this to put a dollar value on demerit points…

Mr Gillespie 3:41 pm 17 Oct 10

91 in an 80 zone is bugger-all, it’s just revenue-raising and that’s that.

Jethro 3:39 pm 17 Oct 10

Isn’t that a permanent speed camera that comes with big giant warning signs that there is a speed camera ahead?

As far as I’m concerned, anyone speeding through one of those deserves whatever they get.

taninaus 12:48 pm 17 Oct 10

to fine someone for driving too fast – yes

double demerit doesn’t change the amount the fine is, just the number of points. This is higher than what I understand the personal fine to be, so as Sgt B said maybe it is high for another reason?

trevar 12:33 pm 17 Oct 10

I got caught in my company car in what I ignorantly thought was a 100km/h zone doing precisely that speed, which turned out to be 20km/h over the limit. The fine was just over $1000 when sent, and reduced to two hundred and something when I confessed to the crime, so something in the seven hundreds sounds a bit much for a lesser crime (if the vehicle is privately owned).

Mistakes aside, speeding fines are optional in the ACT. If you would prefer not to get one, you are permitted to drive at or below the signposted limit. After a recent driving trip to Queensland, I can only assume this is not the case in all states…

luther_bendross 12:22 pm 17 Oct 10

Seems rather inconsequential whether it’s normal or not. It must be paid, so pay it.

Sgt.Bungers 11:56 am 17 Oct 10

Is her vehicle registered in a business name? If so I believe the $$ fine is 5 times the amount unless a driver is nominated.

The business may choose to pay the large fines on a regular basis instead of having the drivers licence suspended of the CEO who regularly drives the vehicle.

But speed cameras are not about revenue.

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