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Stanhope and NRMA to meet to outlaw heart attacks

By johnboy 24 March 2009 27

The Chief Minister’s quixotic campaign to eliminate cars on the road road deaths in the ACT marches on.

Mr. Stanhope has announced a grand road-safety roundtable to bring about the “cultural change” he seeks.

    “This roundtable will be tasked with devising real ways to bring about a cultural change among Canberra drivers so that one road death a year in this town is one too many,” Mr Stanhope said.

    “It is simply unacceptable that each year about 14 people are killed and 500 people are injured on ACT roads.

And that despite all his cameras and all his speed vans.

Seeing as how one death so far this year was caused by a heart attack I wonder what cultural change will do to address that?

    Items to be discussed include driver and rider education, ideas for road safety campaigns, road infrastructure safety improvements and the enforcement of road safety policies, such as the use of speed cameras.

    The roundtable will also consider the possible expansion of 40km/h zones around shopping and community facilities, including aged care facilities – a topic listed for consultation by the Greens in the Labor and Greens Parliamentary Agreement.

    Peak road safety stakeholders including the Motorcycle Riders Association, Pedal Power, the NRMA-ACT Road Safety Trust and the Australian Federal Police will be invited to attend the roundtable.

For mine the most dangerous thing on the roads in Canberra at the moment is the sun on the roads of the East-West arterials around sunset. Cleaning up all the painted over road markings (which reflect beautifully and confusingly) would do wonders for road safety.

But that’s a less impressive use of power than changing the culture.

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Sgt.Bungers 3:18 pm 26 Mar 09

Wow wasn’t expecting quite that response.

Nothing I have suggested is out of the ordinary. I’ve read a fair bit about these pedestrian friendly roads in Europe over the past few years. Statistics show that despite vehicle speeds decreasing, travel times also decrease as you’re no longer waiting for several minutes for an intersection to clear before you can move. Fatalties also plummet. Why is this a bad thing?

Have a read about Woonerf’s as used in the Netherlands and Germany. The Netherlands has amoung the lowest road toll in the world.

#25 Yes “unmarked” intersections would create traffic chaos on major roads… however at intersections with less than a few thousand users per day, are we really all so stupid as to need governing regarding who has right of way?

#23 Yet statistics show that when these “experienced” drivers get behind the wheel themselves they’re more likely to kill, or be killed, than the inexperienced drivers they’re teaching. Learner drivers are the *safest* drivers on the road.

As for cobblestone streets, doesn’t have to be the rough cobblestones that will demount cyclists, and cause havoc for wheelchair users, it could be pavers as already used on some parts of Bunda Street, and the entrance to some roads in Hughes. As for coloured pavement, it’s already in use in Australia. Look up Port Campbell on Google Maps. The main street of Port campbell has been repaved with decorative lines, thus creating a more pleasant main street. Why cant we do that on Bunda Street, or Flinders Way, Bougainville St, Franklin St through the Manuka shops, Bradley St in Woden, etc, whilst turning them into shared zones?

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be the first person to opt for a 110km/h limit on the parkway, and for it to be resurfaced with hotmix then the limit bumped up again, 100 on the GDE, 90 on Adelaide, 120 on the Federal, as well as far stricter enforcement of keep left laws on high speed roads, and tailgating offences in all situations…

But in my opinion a maximum speed of walking pace is far safer in heavy pedestrain areas than the current 40-60km/h limits in the ACT. To acheive a speed limit of walking pace, we cant just bump speed limits down again on roads that were initially designed for 35mph. The roads have to be redesigned for a max speed of 5-10km/h.

SheepGroper 1:54 pm 26 Mar 09

Not to mention the disabled wouldn’t exactly be overjoyed, how do wheelchairs go on cobbles? Or blind people?

neanderthalsis 1:09 pm 26 Mar 09

neanderthalsis said :

Sgt.Bungers said :

One way to achieve this would simply be to replace quieter intersections that currently have stop signs/ give way signs/ traffic lights/ painted white lines/ pedestrian ramps/ pedestrian crossings, need to go. Replace all of that, and the grey/black roads, with coloured concrete or cobble stones. Give pedestrians right of way at all time under all circumstances. When the road is clear of pedestrians, drivers have to sort out who’s going to go with eye contact and hand gestures as nobody has absolute right of way.
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Second go. Helps if you actually type a comment…

You would have traffic chaos, try driving in Italy on narrow cobbled streets with pedestrians wandering hither, tither and yon about the place and vehicular right of way determined by a variety of vague hand signals and nods. I don’t think this is a solution.

Our suburbanised housing arrangements make it necessary for us to use cars for just about everything. If we all lived, shopped and ate within strolling distance of our homes your cobbled street system would work, but because we live in outer suburbs, have poor access to public transport and thus have to drive to the CBD or other major centre for work, it would do little more than create chaos.

neanderthalsis 1:00 pm 26 Mar 09

Sgt.Bungers said :

One way to achieve this would simply be to replace quieter intersections that currently have stop signs/ give way signs/ traffic lights/ painted white lines/ pedestrian ramps/ pedestrian crossings, need to go. Replace all of that, and the grey/black roads, with coloured concrete or cobble stones. Give pedestrians right of way at all time under all circumstances. When the road is clear of pedestrians, drivers have to sort out who’s going to go with eye contact and hand gestures as nobody has absolute right of way.
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SheepGroper 12:36 pm 26 Mar 09

Sgt.Bungers said :

Statistics show that learner drivers are the ones *least* likely to be involved in a serious crash. Why?

Because each learner driver is required to have an experienced, fully licensed driver beside them guiding them?

peterh 11:55 am 26 Mar 09

jakez said :

Note to self, never vote for Sgt Bungers.

or labor, or the greens, or the democrats?

jakez 11:51 am 26 Mar 09

Note to self, never vote for Sgt Bungers.

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