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Land Cruiser road raging on a bus

By 18 August, 2011 130

ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to a road rage incident between a Land Cruiser and an ACTION bus which occurred yesterday afternoon (Wednesday, August 17) on Hopetoun Circuit in Yarralumla.

About 3.10pm, the bus carrying school children was on Hopetoun Circuit when a beige Toyota Land Cruiser attempted to overtake it, colliding with the side of the bus. At the next stop the driver of the Land Cruiser drove into the rear of the bus before driving off.

No one was injured from the incident.

Police would like to speak to anyone who may have witnessed the incident or who may be able to assist with the investigation by contacting Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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130 Responses to Land Cruiser road raging on a bus
#1
The Frots9:28 am, 18 Aug 11

Hmmmmmmm. Road rage……………………………..or alcohol???

#2
BigBadWoof9:47 am, 18 Aug 11

Hahahaha, I’m glad the school children weren’t hurt but wow. Sounds like someone was drunk or just plain stupid to me.

#3
Jim Jones9:48 am, 18 Aug 11

The Frots said :

Hmmmmmmm. Road rage……………………………..or alcohol???

If it’s a landcruiser, it’s a safe bet to say that the issue was a terminal case of being a wanker.

#4
KB19719:58 am, 18 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

The Frots said :

Hmmmmmmm. Road rage……………………………..or alcohol???

If it’s a landcruiser, it’s a safe bet to say that the issue was a terminal case of being a wanker.

Really? I thought only wankers stereotyped…………….

#5
Very Busy10:00 am, 18 Aug 11

To all Canberra drivers – I simply cannot stress this enough. If you are driving along and you see a bus ahead of you, you MUST do whatever it takes to get infront of it. Even if that bus is doing the speed limit, it is a sign of tremendous weakness on your part if you don’t get infront of it. Even if you are about to turn left, and the bus is in the left lane, you must change lanes, overtake it, and then cut it off and slam on your brakes to execute your left turn. Same applies when you’re needing to turn left soon after a set of traffic lights. If the left lane at the lights has a bus in it, choose the right lane and then execute the same procedure as above.

Oh, and don’t forget that you should ignore that road rule about giving way to buses that are indicating their intention to exit a bus stop. This rule doesn’t apply to you.

I realise that the vast majority of you already follow these principles but for those that don’t, please – take my advice above and you will get to your destination at least 3.5 seconds quicker.

#6
shadow boxer10:00 am, 18 Aug 11

How do you collide with the side of a bus while overtaking.

Unless of course the bus pulled out while he was overtaking.

Jim is probably right though.

#7
Classified10:02 am, 18 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

The Frots said :

Hmmmmmmm. Road rage……………………………..or alcohol???

If it’s a landcruiser, it’s a safe bet to say that the issue was a terminal case of being a wanker.

There are an awful lot of 4WD owners in this city who seem to think that owning a 4WD means you have automatic right of way.

#8
troll-sniffer10:03 am, 18 Aug 11

Cannot discount the possibility that the bus driver sanctimoniously took his ‘right’ to whack the indicator on and pull out without confirming it was appropriate to do so, and the Land Cruiser driver was forced to brake hard, possibly skidding into the bus. With no legal recourse available due to the inequitable laws in place, he got the shits and made his annoyance plain for the driver to see.

Only a possible scenario mind you but I can see it happening from time to time.

#9
dpm10:11 am, 18 Aug 11

Winner alert!

Maybe after the first side hit, they thought they’d need to get a ‘rear’ hit so they could claim the damage on insurance? I suggest the cops try AAMI and NRMA?

I mean rally, why else would you reverse into a bus, in your own car?!? Bet he taught that bus a lesson! Hahahaha! Twat….

#10
The Frots10:14 am, 18 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

The Frots said :

Hmmmmmmm. Road rage……………………………..or alcohol???

If it’s a landcruiser, it’s a safe bet to say that the issue was a terminal case of being a wanker.

Yep. More likely the case.

#11
Thumper10:14 am, 18 Aug 11

At the next stop the driver of the Land Cruiser drove into the rear of the bus before driving off.

Yeah, I reckon that showed ‘em who was boss.

What a flog.

#12
MightyJoe10:15 am, 18 Aug 11

Look, I’m glad that no kids were hurt… buuuut

i have seen so many instances where buses just flick the indicator without looking and pull out of a bus stop. The fact that the Bus ended up being in front of the Landcruiser, what does that suggest?

Also. To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD? I don’t currently own one, but when I did, it made me realise that there are a lot of stupid people out there. 2 tons of car cannot stop on a dime. The amount of people waling onto roads just as I was about to pass / cars cutting in front of me, it was amazing.

Again, maybe the guy was drunk, or angry etc, but given my observations on Action drivers over the years, i really believe that the Bus driver did the old, I’m bigger / stronger, won’t bother looking.

Cheers

MJ

#13
chewy1410:25 am, 18 Aug 11

MightyJoe said :

i really believe that the Bus driver did the old, I’m bigger / stronger, won’t bother looking.

MJ

Highly possible.
Although you did just describe the most common behaviour of a lot of 4WD drivers in Canberra as well.

How many 4WD’s in Canberra have ever seen a dirt road?

#14
colourful sydney rac10:26 am, 18 Aug 11

MightyJoe said :

Look, I’m glad that no kids were hurt… buuuut

i have seen so many instances where buses just flick the indicator without looking and pull out of a bus stop. The fact that the Bus ended up being in front of the Landcruiser, what does that suggest?

Also. To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD? I don’t currently own one, but when I did, it made me realise that there are a lot of stupid people out there. 2 tons of car cannot stop on a dime. The amount of people waling onto roads just as I was about to pass / cars cutting in front of me, it was amazing.

Again, maybe the guy was drunk, or angry etc, but given my observations on Action drivers over the years, i really believe that the Bus driver did the old, I’m bigger / stronger, won’t bother looking.

Cheers

MJ

You read the bit where the driver deliberately drove into the bus right? Right?

#15
Holden Caulfield10:29 am, 18 Aug 11

Commodore drivers, you need to up the ante. Can’t have no pussy 4WD stealing ur headlinez.

(I’m also glad no kiddies were hurt in this inicdent.)

#16
Jim Jones10:32 am, 18 Aug 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

MightyJoe said :

Look, I’m glad that no kids were hurt… buuuut

i have seen so many instances where buses just flick the indicator without looking and pull out of a bus stop. The fact that the Bus ended up being in front of the Landcruiser, what does that suggest?

Also. To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD? I don’t currently own one, but when I did, it made me realise that there are a lot of stupid people out there. 2 tons of car cannot stop on a dime. The amount of people waling onto roads just as I was about to pass / cars cutting in front of me, it was amazing.

Again, maybe the guy was drunk, or angry etc, but given my observations on Action drivers over the years, i really believe that the Bus driver did the old, I’m bigger / stronger, won’t bother looking.

Cheers

MJ

You read the bit where the driver deliberately drove into the bus right? Right?

Oh come on. Read his post again.

It’s the buses fault, and also if you drive a 4WD then it’s everybody else’s fault for being run over.

#17
KB197110:46 am, 18 Aug 11

MightyJoe said :

i have seen so many instances where buses just flick the indicator without looking and pull out of a bus stop. The fact that the Bus ended up being in front of the Landcruiser, what does that suggest?

This is not a dig at you directly MJ.

I am curious about this behavior, as I am approaching a bus I am always expecting it to whack its indicator on ready to pull out. Its not a surprise that it is going to happen, thats why there is a law for you to give way I guess so I apprach the bus the way I approach a T intersection with a give way sign, ready to stop as neccesary.

Also, 12 tonnes of bus just does not launch out into the traffic & if they start to go while you are alongside you would generally be able to avoid an accident given the width of our roads.

I just find drivers behavoir odd around buses/heavy vehicles in general.

#18
shadow boxer10:56 am, 18 Aug 11

KB1971 said :

MightyJoe said :

i have seen so many instances where buses just flick the indicator without looking and pull out of a bus stop. The fact that the Bus ended up being in front of the Landcruiser, what does that suggest?

I agree they do not launch into traffic so how could you explain a scenario where someone collides with the side of a bus without the bus pulling out while the car was in the way ?
This is not a dig at you directly MJ.

I am curious about this behavior, as I am approaching a bus I am always expecting it to whack its indicator on ready to pull out. Its not a surprise that it is going to happen, thats why there is a law for you to give way I guess so I apprach the bus the way I approach a T intersection with a give way sign, ready to stop as neccesary.

Also, 12 tonnes of bus just does not launch out into the traffic & if they start to go while you are alongside you would generally be able to avoid an accident given the width of our roads.

I just find drivers behavoir odd around buses/heavy vehicles in general.

#19
Thumper11:01 am, 18 Aug 11

have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD?

Yes. Lots.

Landcruisers even. With large trailers behind them.

And yes, they can take some stopping at times.

#20
Erg011:10 am, 18 Aug 11

The 4wd driver could have seen the bus’s indicator as he approached and thought “nah, I can get past him before he pulls out” – only to be proven wrong. I’ve seen a few near misses under these circumstances.

#21
shadow boxer11:14 am, 18 Aug 11

I just can’t see a scenario where someone runs into the side of a bus without the bus pulling out while the car was already beside it.

That would make me angry as well, maybe not angry enough to ram a bus, but pretty angry.

#22
Ben_Dover11:17 am, 18 Aug 11

MightyJoe said :

Also. To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD?

Never felt the need too, I have a more than adequately sized penis, no delusions of my living in back of Bourke, and weigh in at under 150 kilos. But thanks for asking…

#23
luther_bendross11:20 am, 18 Aug 11

I’ve been driving larger, heavier vehicles for a while now (MR’s) and in those (and moreso I’d suggest for buses and things bigger than MR) it becomes apparent that a lot of car drivers assume that your 8 tonnes can stop, turn, merge, climb hills et al just as quick as everyone else. So give truck/bus drivers a break: it may not be rocket surgery, but it is not easy.

Now I need to qualify that Landcruisers are not trucks, they are large cars that can be driven by people who think they are trucks, and this is where dickheads appear. This guy hitting a bus twice: dickhead.

#24
shirty_bear11:23 am, 18 Aug 11

Classified said :

There are an awful lot of 4WD owners in this city who seem to think that owning a 4WD means you have automatic right of way.

Yup.

#25
MightyJoe11:26 am, 18 Aug 11

Lol. Pajero to Commodore for me : )

Yes I read the article.

Yes i read the part where he hit from behind.

I was talking about the first part of the accident. and yes agree about the whole 4WD debate doing the same thing as buses.

To the person who referred to buses not being able to lurch out quickly… keep an eye out next time on Northbourne in peak hour. They can lauch just like the old space shuttles did!

Not defending the guy in this instance, but it may have been the straw that broke the camels back.

Holden Caulfield said :

Commodore drivers, you need to up the ante. Can’t have no pussy 4WD stealing ur headlinez.

(I’m also glad no kiddies were hurt in this inicdent.)

#26
KB197111:29 am, 18 Aug 11

shadow boxer said :

KB1971 said :

MightyJoe said :

i have seen so many instances where buses just flick the indicator without looking and pull out of a bus stop. The fact that the Bus ended up being in front of the Landcruiser, what does that suggest?

I agree they do not launch into traffic so how could you explain a scenario where someone collides with the side of a bus without the bus pulling out while the car was in the way ?
This is not a dig at you directly MJ.

I am curious about this behavior, as I am approaching a bus I am always expecting it to whack its indicator on ready to pull out. Its not a surprise that it is going to happen, thats why there is a law for you to give way I guess so I apprach the bus the way I approach a T intersection with a give way sign, ready to stop as neccesary.

Also, 12 tonnes of bus just does not launch out into the traffic & if they start to go while you are alongside you would generally be able to avoid an accident given the width of our roads.

I just find drivers behavoir odd around buses/heavy vehicles in general.

Not having being there at the time but I would suggest that the bus had already started moving when the guy tried to overtake. The bus could have also been trying to turn a corner.

Not enought facts to form a complete judgement. I was merely passing comment on what I had noticed in the past.

#27
Brandi11:53 am, 18 Aug 11

There’s a sign on the back of every ACTION bus: give way when bus is indicating. This applies to any vehicle behind a bus, regardless of size or the character of its driver.

It’s likely the bus indicated to re-enter the lane, but the Cuiser just blew it off as optional and got a bit irrational when he couldn’t get back in his lane.

I wonder if this Cruiser happened to be a white tray-back ute with a firewood advert.

#28
BlackIce11:55 am, 18 Aug 11

MightyJoe said :

To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD? I don’t currently own one, but when I did, it made me realise that there are a lot of stupid people out there. 2 tons of car cannot stop on a dime. The amount of people waling onto roads just as I was about to pass / cars cutting in front of me, it was amazing.

The number of 4WD drivers who forget that 2 tonnes of car does not stop on a dime and continue to tailgate is also amazing…

#29
MightyJoe12:09 pm, 18 Aug 11

All too true.

BlackIce said :

MightyJoe said :

To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD? I don’t currently own one, but when I did, it made me realise that there are a lot of stupid people out there. 2 tons of car cannot stop on a dime. The amount of people waling onto roads just as I was about to pass / cars cutting in front of me, it was amazing.

The number of 4WD drivers who forget that 2 tonnes of car does not stop on a dime and continue to tailgate is also amazing…

#30
Jim Jones12:23 pm, 18 Aug 11

BlackIce said :

MightyJoe said :

To all the 4WD haters out there, have you actually ever driven a large (proper) 4WD? I don’t currently own one, but when I did, it made me realise that there are a lot of stupid people out there. 2 tons of car cannot stop on a dime. The amount of people waling onto roads just as I was about to pass / cars cutting in front of me, it was amazing.

The number of 4WD drivers who forget that 2 tonnes of car does not stop on a dime and continue to tailgate is also amazing…

Almost as amazing as the amount of people who think that they need to drive 2 tonnes of car to drive on normal sealed roads.

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