ACT Light Rail to speak at GCC Forum on 13 June 2012

Damien Haas 8 June 2012 22
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ACT Light Rail have been invited to speak at the Gungahlin Community Council public forum next Wednesday. Damien Haas, Chair of ACT Light Rail, will discuss the recent ACT Budget, the Gungahlin to Civic transport corridor and the future of light rail in the ACT.

GCC Public Forum
7.30 PM
Wednesday 13 June 2012
Gungahlin Public Library – Meeting Rooms

Anyone who mentions the Riot Act will get a free light rail sticker!


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poetix poetix 4:40 pm 10 Jun 12

Q: If it gets a metro will Gungahlin become the Paris of Canberra?
A: Non.

PA1 PA1 11:03 am 10 Jun 12

Thumper said :

Underground

It probably doesn’t need to be underground (underground costs a lot more) since we have enough green space (although certain sections could be underground).

What I would propose is to create a grade-separated, automated light metro (Like London’s Docklands Light Railway and Vancouver Skytrain).

Thumper Thumper 9:58 am 10 Jun 12

Underground

Pandy Pandy 9:33 am 10 Jun 12

bikhet said :

Gungahlin Al said :

But rest assured – I was only able to continue campaigning for light rail on behalf of the Gungahlin community because that is what the community itself were constantly telling us they supported.

And how was the level of support by the community determined? By a survey of a statistically valid random sample of the population? By the level of noise made by a self-selected group of activists? Something between the two?

Exactly.

@Gun Al. I said stacked, I did not say totally. GGC has been supporting light rail for over 10 years. ACT Light Rail does not have open books or is an incorporated association. If it were, I reckon most of the “committee” have dabbled in GCC affairs at one stage or another.

bikhet bikhet 7:20 am 10 Jun 12

Gungahlin Al said :

But rest assured – I was only able to continue campaigning for light rail on behalf of the Gungahlin community because that is what the community itself were constantly telling us they supported.

And how was the level of support by the community determined? By a survey of a statistically valid random sample of the population? By the level of noise made by a self-selected group of activists? Something between the two?

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 9:55 pm 09 Jun 12

Pandy said :

ACT Light Rail has always been a tool and stacked by Gungahlinites.

Why does the invite not surprise me?

Bull Pandy. As usual. Damien is from Belco – an area that would benefit almost as much from light rail as would Gungahlin and North Canberra.

Yes I have always supported what they’ve been campaigning for – because I believe it is right. And because I always had so many balls in the air requiring lobbying for Gungahlin and the wider community that it was good to have another group leading that issue.

I just want Canberra to implement a proper public transport solution that will replace the need to constantly pour hundreds of millions into road construction – knowing all the while that doing so will only eventually make the traffic problem worse.

But rest assured – I was only able to continue campaigning for light rail on behalf of the Gungahlin community because that is what the community itself were constantly telling us they supported.

Pandy Pandy 8:33 am 09 Jun 12

ACT Light Rail has always been a tool and stacked by Gungahlinites.

Why does the invite not surprise me?

damien haas damien haas 3:26 pm 08 Jun 12

Chop71 said :

I think you will need at least 5 more consultant reports, a few more sumits, more community discussions/meetings, several costed plans and reviews of estimates. Not to mention EPA reports, more community meetings and submissions from residents etc.

By then it will be 2050 and we would have invented teleporting.

Although a few gumbymints would have been elected through those years on promises and hope.

A person wh owas one of teh first residents of Palmerston game me recently an early 90’s Gungahlin transport report. there were 4 options examined:

Gungahlin Drive extension
O-Bahn style busway
Light Rail
Monash Drive

Guess which one eventuated ?

As I was handed the report the person said ‘If we had got light rail 20 years ago, we wouldnt be arguing about transport today’.

BTW in the 90’s COMENG costed light rail at 120 million and an O-bahn busway at 90 million. This included several flyovers on Northbourne (for some reason).

Those are the earliest figures Ive seen.

damien haas damien haas 3:20 pm 08 Jun 12

Dilandach said :

Well, sir, there’s nothing on earth like a genuine, Bona fide, Electrified, Six-car Monorail! what’d I say?

ACT Light Rail are opposed to monorail, arguments why this technology is not suited to a mass transit system are here http://www.actlightrail.info/2012/03/monorail-not-suited-for-canberra.html

damien haas damien haas 3:14 pm 08 Jun 12

miz said :

Is there a reason why Light Rail has not been touted for anywhere south? Just curious. I would imagine broadening the scope would result in wider support?

There is interest all over Canberra, and Tuggeranong Communty Council have been quite vocal in asking for light rail.

Thumper Thumper 3:10 pm 08 Jun 12

watto23 said :

Yep light rail was sooo last year. Canberra need and underground 🙂

That said many undergrounds are built such that they are covered up by road or buildings. They literally sit just below the road. Doesn’t add a huge cost because the land is still usuable above the underground.

There’s an underground movement forming…

Sorry about that…

watto23 watto23 3:04 pm 08 Jun 12

Yep light rail was sooo last year. Canberra need and underground 🙂

That said many undergrounds are built such that they are covered up by road or buildings. They literally sit just below the road. Doesn’t add a huge cost because the land is still usuable above the underground.

enrique enrique 1:35 pm 08 Jun 12

GBT said :

Well, this thread has clearly fostered some intellectual discussion!

Get back in your box GBT 😉

miz miz 1:09 pm 08 Jun 12

Is there a reason why Light Rail has not been touted for anywhere south? Just curious. I would imagine broadening the scope would result in wider support?

Chop71 Chop71 11:56 am 08 Jun 12

I think you will need at least 5 more consultant reports, a few more sumits, more community discussions/meetings, several costed plans and reviews of estimates. Not to mention EPA reports, more community meetings and submissions from residents etc.

By then it will be 2050 and we would have invented teleporting.

Although a few gumbymints would have been elected through those years on promises and hope.

GBT GBT 11:38 am 08 Jun 12

Well, this thread has clearly fostered some intellectual discussion!

enrique enrique 10:23 am 08 Jun 12

Thumper said :

Underground…

What’d i say?

Underground…

I like your thinking!

Thumper Thumper 9:38 am 08 Jun 12

Jim Jones said :

Is there a chance the track could bend?

Not a chance my Hindu friend.

(Especially if it’s undergound!)

Jim Jones Jim Jones 9:35 am 08 Jun 12

Is there a chance the track could bend?

Deref Deref 9:32 am 08 Jun 12

Dilandach said :

Well, sir, there’s nothing on earth like a genuine, Bona fide, Electrified, Six-car Monorail! what’d I say?

+1

Time to move to Ogdenville or North Haverbrook.

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