ACTION, Capital Metro to merge under Transport Canberra umbrella

rubaiyat said :

dungfungus said :

dungfungus said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

rubaiyat said :

Add in possible road tolls to make the real choices more transparent and add a charge on taxis and Uber style operations that makes them pay for their use of taxpayer resources for private profit.

While we’re at it, why not just charge bus users a whole lot more so that the system doesn’t run at a loss and needs propping up by taxpayers?
Also, will the tram tickets cost substantially more than what is predicted due to the higher costs of buying all this “green energy” that runs it? Let us not forget that during night time hours the tram will revert to running on coal powered electricity, there is no other way around it. The only other alternatives are hydro and wind, but in a climate like ours these are both quite unreliable.
As for your point about the taxi and Uber drivers using publicly funded assets, why stop there? A toll for pedestrians and cyclists who use taxpayer funded footpaths. How much did we spend on all these bike paths again?
What about taxpayer funded trash collection? Should we pay for that? Oh, we do in our rates.
What about our publicly funded water supply? Actew charges us for the privilege.
What about taxpayer funded hospitals? Yes, we already pay for that in hospital fees and the Medicare levy.
What about taxpayer funded roads then? We pay registration, fuel excise, insurance premiums, all kinds of government fees plus stamp duty every time we buy another car.
You can take your road tolls and stick them as an extra onto any other service that has been funded by the public purse, then see the reaction from the people who use it. Your anti-car sentiments are getting tiresome, repetitive and do not solve the problem of how to get about in this city of ours. Neither does the tram.

Good questions but don’t expect satisfactory responses.

Sorry, I should have said don’t expect any responses.

So not even allowed to mention that 5 posts in a row, including the previous one was deleted? Probably this will be the 6th.

No wonder the “consensus” here is so clear.

The consensus is that you have been a naughty boy.

farq, thank you. You have summed it up. I too live here because it is quintessential suburbia, which I love, value and celebrate. I detest ‘vibrant’ (dirty, crowded, generally unsafe) inner city places like Brunswick and Braddon.

dungfungus said :

dungfungus said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

rubaiyat said :

Add in possible road tolls to make the real choices more transparent and add a charge on taxis and Uber style operations that makes them pay for their use of taxpayer resources for private profit.

While we’re at it, why not just charge bus users a whole lot more so that the system doesn’t run at a loss and needs propping up by taxpayers?
Also, will the tram tickets cost substantially more than what is predicted due to the higher costs of buying all this “green energy” that runs it? Let us not forget that during night time hours the tram will revert to running on coal powered electricity, there is no other way around it. The only other alternatives are hydro and wind, but in a climate like ours these are both quite unreliable.
As for your point about the taxi and Uber drivers using publicly funded assets, why stop there? A toll for pedestrians and cyclists who use taxpayer funded footpaths. How much did we spend on all these bike paths again?
What about taxpayer funded trash collection? Should we pay for that? Oh, we do in our rates.
What about our publicly funded water supply? Actew charges us for the privilege.
What about taxpayer funded hospitals? Yes, we already pay for that in hospital fees and the Medicare levy.
What about taxpayer funded roads then? We pay registration, fuel excise, insurance premiums, all kinds of government fees plus stamp duty every time we buy another car.
You can take your road tolls and stick them as an extra onto any other service that has been funded by the public purse, then see the reaction from the people who use it. Your anti-car sentiments are getting tiresome, repetitive and do not solve the problem of how to get about in this city of ours. Neither does the tram.

Good questions but don’t expect satisfactory responses.

Sorry, I should have said don’t expect any responses.

So not even allowed to mention that 5 posts in a row, including the previous one was deleted? Probably this will be the 6th.

No wonder the “consensus” here is so clear.

dungfungus said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

rubaiyat said :

Add in possible road tolls to make the real choices more transparent and add a charge on taxis and Uber style operations that makes them pay for their use of taxpayer resources for private profit.

While we’re at it, why not just charge bus users a whole lot more so that the system doesn’t run at a loss and needs propping up by taxpayers?
Also, will the tram tickets cost substantially more than what is predicted due to the higher costs of buying all this “green energy” that runs it? Let us not forget that during night time hours the tram will revert to running on coal powered electricity, there is no other way around it. The only other alternatives are hydro and wind, but in a climate like ours these are both quite unreliable.
As for your point about the taxi and Uber drivers using publicly funded assets, why stop there? A toll for pedestrians and cyclists who use taxpayer funded footpaths. How much did we spend on all these bike paths again?
What about taxpayer funded trash collection? Should we pay for that? Oh, we do in our rates.
What about our publicly funded water supply? Actew charges us for the privilege.
What about taxpayer funded hospitals? Yes, we already pay for that in hospital fees and the Medicare levy.
What about taxpayer funded roads then? We pay registration, fuel excise, insurance premiums, all kinds of government fees plus stamp duty every time we buy another car.
You can take your road tolls and stick them as an extra onto any other service that has been funded by the public purse, then see the reaction from the people who use it. Your anti-car sentiments are getting tiresome, repetitive and do not solve the problem of how to get about in this city of ours. Neither does the tram.

Good questions but don’t expect satisfactory responses.

Sorry, I should have said don’t expect any responses.

rubaiyat said :

Add in possible road tolls to make the real choices more transparent

And while we are at it, get rid of all subsidies on the bus and future monorail to make sure the true cost of those “choices” are transparent.

You complain about people who have concerns about the monorail being bigots, but personally I think you are the only extremist posting regularly on this issue.

I made the choice to continue living in Canberra because it’s suburban. I like commuting to work by bus, but just wish it did not take 3x as long as driving. I have kids to drop at school, shopping to do, I already have a car. I like my big block with a nice garden, having a dog, a veggie patch and pool. I don’t want to live a metropolitan life style.

I don’t see why I should have to stump up for excessive rates just so people in the inner city can live in small apartments (without kids and pets) next to train line when they could move to sydney if that is what floats their boat.

The monorail white elephant makes no sense to the majority of us rate payers because we will be worse off. It will be slower than a bus, it costs WAY more than a bus and can’t come close to adapting over time like a bus network.

In 2015 we already have to pay massive ever increasing rate bills, how much more will we have to pay once the government spends around $10billion on this old fashioned infrastructure?

I just don’t get it. No one has said anything that makes any sense to me how this is good for residents.

And this helps how? It won’t stop a re-structure if the Libs get in.

wildturkeycanoe said :

rubaiyat said :

Add in possible road tolls to make the real choices more transparent and add a charge on taxis and Uber style operations that makes them pay for their use of taxpayer resources for private profit.

While we’re at it, why not just charge bus users a whole lot more so that the system doesn’t run at a loss and needs propping up by taxpayers?
Also, will the tram tickets cost substantially more than what is predicted due to the higher costs of buying all this “green energy” that runs it? Let us not forget that during night time hours the tram will revert to running on coal powered electricity, there is no other way around it. The only other alternatives are hydro and wind, but in a climate like ours these are both quite unreliable.
As for your point about the taxi and Uber drivers using publicly funded assets, why stop there? A toll for pedestrians and cyclists who use taxpayer funded footpaths. How much did we spend on all these bike paths again?
What about taxpayer funded trash collection? Should we pay for that? Oh, we do in our rates.
What about our publicly funded water supply? Actew charges us for the privilege.
What about taxpayer funded hospitals? Yes, we already pay for that in hospital fees and the Medicare levy.
What about taxpayer funded roads then? We pay registration, fuel excise, insurance premiums, all kinds of government fees plus stamp duty every time we buy another car.
You can take your road tolls and stick them as an extra onto any other service that has been funded by the public purse, then see the reaction from the people who use it. Your anti-car sentiments are getting tiresome, repetitive and do not solve the problem of how to get about in this city of ours. Neither does the tram.

Good questions but don’t expect satisfactory responses.

Another bureaucracy – say $5 million a year
Another board and chairman – say $500,000 a year
Another failure – priceless.

rubaiyat said :

Add in possible road tolls to make the real choices more transparent and add a charge on taxis and Uber style operations that makes them pay for their use of taxpayer resources for private profit.

While we’re at it, why not just charge bus users a whole lot more so that the system doesn’t run at a loss and needs propping up by taxpayers?
Also, will the tram tickets cost substantially more than what is predicted due to the higher costs of buying all this “green energy” that runs it? Let us not forget that during night time hours the tram will revert to running on coal powered electricity, there is no other way around it. The only other alternatives are hydro and wind, but in a climate like ours these are both quite unreliable.
As for your point about the taxi and Uber drivers using publicly funded assets, why stop there? A toll for pedestrians and cyclists who use taxpayer funded footpaths. How much did we spend on all these bike paths again?
What about taxpayer funded trash collection? Should we pay for that? Oh, we do in our rates.
What about our publicly funded water supply? Actew charges us for the privilege.
What about taxpayer funded hospitals? Yes, we already pay for that in hospital fees and the Medicare levy.
What about taxpayer funded roads then? We pay registration, fuel excise, insurance premiums, all kinds of government fees plus stamp duty every time we buy another car.
You can take your road tolls and stick them as an extra onto any other service that has been funded by the public purse, then see the reaction from the people who use it. Your anti-car sentiments are getting tiresome, repetitive and do not solve the problem of how to get about in this city of ours. Neither does the tram.

Does that mean there wont be a spokesperson after the next election?

seems like they want to get a pat on the back for not doing a stupid thing.

kinda like the opposite of what happened with Actew Water being Icon water because ACT electricity and water water was just stupid.