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By Michael Reid 23 May 2016 41

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Due to industrial action, residents in Weston Creek, Woden and Tuggeranong will not have their household waste and recycling bins collected tomorrow (Tuesday 24 May).

The action is being taken by the drivers employed by contractor SUEZ.

“Due to the large number of suburbs impacted by the industrial action today and tomorrow, catch up collection services will unfortunately not be possible,” Michael Trushell, the director of ACT NOWaste said on Monday.

“To help minimise the impact to residents, the ACT government and contractor SUEZ have established a range of contingency arrangements.

“From today through to Sunday 29 May, five temporary drop-off sites for the disposal of waste and recycling have been established in affected areas.

“Residents will be able to come along to these locations and drop off any rubbish for free.”

The temporary sites will be open from 6am to 8pm and are located at:

  • Calwell – in the car park adjacent to the parkland area off Outtrim Avenue
  • Kambah – outside the ACT Parks and Conservation Service Depot off Chirnside Circuit
  • Weston Creek – in the car park adjacent to the parkland area off Hilder Street
  • Phillip – in the car park north-east of Callum Offices off Easty Street
  • Tuggeranong – within the car park opposite Abode Apartments off Anketell and Cowlishaw Streets.

Excess household waste of up to two large plastic garbage bags, or the equivalent of a green bin in volume, can be disposed of for free at both the Mitchell and Mugga Lane Resource Management Centres until Sunday. Proof of address such as driver’s licence will need to be provided to demonstrate the resident is from a suburb whose bins were scheduled for collection on Monday and Tuesday.

Recyclable materials can be deposited for free at the six regional recycling drop-off centres. Additional collection services will again be scheduled for the centres to help cope with the expected increase in the recyclable material being disposed of by affected residents.

Trushell said the ACT government would continue to keep the community informed about the industrial action including any further impacts to residents and alternative disposal options.

“We have installed signage throughout all of the affected suburbs to ensure residents are aware of the disruptions to bin collections this week. Radio and Facebook advertising is also being used to help inform the community.

“Information is also available on the Territory and Municipal Services website at www.tams.act.gov.au, by following @tamsmediaroom on Twitter, liking the ACT Government Facebook page, downloading the free MyWaste app or by calling Access Canberra on 13 22 81.”

Suburbs affected by tomorrow’s industrial action are: Banks, Gilmore*, O’Malley*, Bonython, Gordon, Phillip*, Calwell, Gowrie*, Richardson*, Chisholm*, Isaacs*, Swinger Hill*, Conder, Isabella Plains, Tharwa, Fadden*, Macarthur* Theodore, Garran* Monash*, Wanniassa*.

* Recycling collections also scheduled on this day.


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dungfungus 8:52 am 28 May 16

bundahgal said :

Felix the Cat said :

gooterz said :

ungruntled said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Do you know where QCC delivers and processes the green waste that is collected?

No, do you? I assume it goes to someone who turns it into mulch, as happens in the ACT with green waste at the tip.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think all waste collected in Queanbeyan goes to the Mugga Lane Landfill in which case the green waste would have to separated first as householders have to do in Canberra.
I am sure very few Canberrans keep green waste out of their garbage bin even though there are signs on the bin not to put it in so the only way to get rid of it is to process it at the home and re-use it as mulch or drive to one of the green disposal points in Canberra to dispose of it. Both of these options are inefficient compared to having a green waste bin as Queanbeyan does.
The inclusion of green organic waste in putrecible land fill waste corrupts the process and causes leeching and odour problems years after. It also uses up the landfill space that could be used by disposable nappies.
The ACT is supposed to be a world leader in waste management but they fail badly on this issue.

So is are your mob going to change this if elected? Might be a good reason to vote for them rather tab vote for them to kick the other mob out. Which seems to be their election platform at present.

Though my guess is probably not as that would be a green policy wouldn’t it?

I don’t know who you are referring to when you say “your mob” because I am not a member of any political party or association.
Perhaps you could apply all that knowledge you possess (or have access to) and comment on the how the problem could be fixed instead.

No need to comment JC, the matter has been resolved positively my the current Labor government as reported elsewhere on this blog today.
You may also note that the Canberra Liberals had greens bins as policy.

dungfungus 6:00 pm 27 May 16

Felix the Cat said :

gooterz said :

ungruntled said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Do you know where QCC delivers and processes the green waste that is collected?

No, do you? I assume it goes to someone who turns it into mulch, as happens in the ACT with green waste at the tip.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think all waste collected in Queanbeyan goes to the Mugga Lane Landfill in which case the green waste would have to separated first as householders have to do in Canberra.
I am sure very few Canberrans keep green waste out of their garbage bin even though there are signs on the bin not to put it in so the only way to get rid of it is to process it at the home and re-use it as mulch or drive to one of the green disposal points in Canberra to dispose of it. Both of these options are inefficient compared to having a green waste bin as Queanbeyan does.
The inclusion of green organic waste in putrecible land fill waste corrupts the process and causes leeching and odour problems years after. It also uses up the landfill space that could be used by disposable nappies.
The ACT is supposed to be a world leader in waste management but they fail badly on this issue.

So is are your mob going to change this if elected? Might be a good reason to vote for them rather tab vote for them to kick the other mob out. Which seems to be their election platform at present.

Though my guess is probably not as that would be a green policy wouldn’t it?

I don’t know who you are referring to when you say “your mob” because I am not a member of any political party or association.
Perhaps you could apply all that knowledge you possess (or have access to) and comment on the how the problem could be fixed instead.

rommeldog56 11:54 am 27 May 16

rommeldog56 said :

If we can set aside new trams and old trees for a moment, does anyone know what penalty provisions are provided in the contract that was entered into with SUEZ by our representatives on our behalf?

Thanks in anticipation.

I heard the boss of garbage collections in TAMS say on 2CC radio this morning, that failure to collect the rubbish is NOT a breach of the contract with the ACT Government to collect said garbage. Go figure……..

I’m sure the contents of the contract and any penalty provisions/liquidated damages, will be “commercial in confidence” so can not be released.

JC 11:25 am 27 May 16

gooterz said :

ungruntled said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Do you know where QCC delivers and processes the green waste that is collected?

No, do you? I assume it goes to someone who turns it into mulch, as happens in the ACT with green waste at the tip.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think all waste collected in Queanbeyan goes to the Mugga Lane Landfill in which case the green waste would have to separated first as householders have to do in Canberra.
I am sure very few Canberrans keep green waste out of their garbage bin even though there are signs on the bin not to put it in so the only way to get rid of it is to process it at the home and re-use it as mulch or drive to one of the green disposal points in Canberra to dispose of it. Both of these options are inefficient compared to having a green waste bin as Queanbeyan does.
The inclusion of green organic waste in putrecible land fill waste corrupts the process and causes leeching and odour problems years after. It also uses up the landfill space that could be used by disposable nappies.
The ACT is supposed to be a world leader in waste management but they fail badly on this issue.

So is are your mob going to change this if elected? Might be a good reason to vote for them rather tab vote for them to kick the other mob out. Which seems to be their election platform at present.

Though my guess is probably not as that would be a green policy wouldn’t it?

dungfungus 11:08 am 27 May 16

ungruntled said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Do you know where QCC delivers and processes the green waste that is collected?

No, do you? I assume it goes to someone who turns it into mulch, as happens in the ACT with green waste at the tip.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think all waste collected in Queanbeyan goes to the Mugga Lane Landfill in which case the green waste would have to separated first as householders have to do in Canberra.
I am sure very few Canberrans keep green waste out of their garbage bin even though there are signs on the bin not to put it in so the only way to get rid of it is to process it at the home and re-use it as mulch or drive to one of the green disposal points in Canberra to dispose of it. Both of these options are inefficient compared to having a green waste bin as Queanbeyan does.
The inclusion of green organic waste in putrecible land fill waste corrupts the process and causes leeching and odour problems years after. It also uses up the landfill space that could be used by disposable nappies.
The ACT is supposed to be a world leader in waste management but they fail badly on this issue.

ozmaniac 10:10 am 27 May 16

This whole discussion sounds like a load of garbage to me…………

curmudgery 9:56 pm 26 May 16

If we can set aside new trams and old trees for a moment, does anyone know what penalty provisions are provided in the contract that was entered into with SUEZ by our representatives on our behalf?

Thanks in anticipation.

Nilrem 2:53 pm 26 May 16

wildturkeycanoe said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Do you know where QCC delivers and processes the green waste that is collected?

No, do you? I assume it goes to someone who turns it into mulch, as happens in the ACT with green waste at the tip.

Nilrem 2:04 pm 26 May 16

martinrev21 said :

wottaway said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Yes, it is. Nowhere else has such a good rate of landfill diversion of green waste without a green waste collection service. It’s a challenge to make the case for spending new public money to provide a service for a problem that is currently managed by households themselves without cost to the government.

I agree there should be a green waste bin (though my trash pack provider would not), but the challenge is how to pay for it.

I’d happily divert my Trashpack payments to extra rates to get a green waste bin.

And I’m sure the trashpack people would happily contract to the Govt to collect green waste…so why does the Govt continue to talk about spending millions on some facility to separate organic waste from landfill?

Nilrem 2:03 pm 26 May 16

wottaway said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Yes, it is. Nowhere else has such a good rate of landfill diversion of green waste without a green waste collection service. It’s a challenge to make the case for spending new public money to provide a service for a problem that is currently managed by households themselves without cost to the government.

I agree there should be a green waste bin (though my trash pack provider would not), but the challenge is how to pay for it.

I’d happily divert my Trashpack payments to extra rates to get a green waste bin.

rhino 1:58 pm 26 May 16

wottaway said :

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Yes, it is. Nowhere else has such a good rate of landfill diversion of green waste without a green waste collection service. It’s a challenge to make the case for spending new public money to provide a service for a problem that is currently managed by households themselves without cost to the government.

I agree there should be a green waste bin (though my trash pack provider would not), but the challenge is how to pay for it.

The part about zero cost to the government isn’t really looking at the big picture though. The government is merely a centralised convenient way for all of us to pay for things. It’s the cost to the community in total that actually matters. If it’s more expensive for everyone to get a trailer and take it to the tip or get trash packs, compared to a universal service with economies of scale, then it’s actually costing us more that way.

I’m not saying that’s definitely the case here, but that’s the way we should think about these sorts of services.

It is a political problem for the politicians to try to pay for things….but that’s really their personal problem, not the community’s.

dungfungus 1:46 pm 26 May 16

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Do you know where QCC delivers and processes the green waste that is collected?

pajs 12:22 pm 26 May 16

drfelonious said :

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

Yes, it is. Nowhere else has such a good rate of landfill diversion of green waste without a green waste collection service. It’s a challenge to make the case for spending new public money to provide a service for a problem that is currently managed by households themselves without cost to the government.

I agree there should be a green waste bin (though my trash pack provider would not), but the challenge is how to pay for it.

Nilrem 12:08 pm 26 May 16

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Everyone driving their own little quantities of green waste to the tip seems a pretty unsustainable approach. Seriously, every other jurisdiction I visit, whether it be Queanbeyan, on the South Coast, in Melbourne or in Sydney, has a green waste collection. Is Canberra really that different?

dungfungus 11:21 am 26 May 16

devils_advocate said :

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

Read #22 and go to the link. That’s how it can be done.

Maya123 10:36 am 26 May 16

I would suggest it should be the recycling bin that goes out every week and the general bin once a fortnight, but it’s likely that some people who have full bins every week (most are likely not sorting properly to manage that) would, after their rubbish bin is full, treat their recycling bin as a rubbish bin and add to their neighbour’s bin too. Then there is rubbish dumped in the bush. You can’t expect people who can’t sort their rubbish, produce too much to care where their rubbish goes. Then we would have a lot of complaining on here that two weeks is too long, as they have too much rubbish for a fortnight’s service. It would not matter how many people could manage easily, including large households, with a fortnightly collection, they ‘somehow’ can’t.
Another way would be to weight each household’s rubbish as it gets picked up, but again that would fail, because some households see it as their right to produce as much rubbish as they want and be subsidised by those who are more careful. They would be sneaking it into the neighbours bin and dumping it in the bush rather than pay an optional fee. And there would be more complaints here.

But don’t worry, the wasters might soon come out on top again. I had a survey about how water bills are calculated. The suggestion is to raise the supply charges and to lower the water consumption charges. The supply charges alone will be about double what I pay for my whole water bill now, and then my water use will be added.

pajs 9:50 am 26 May 16

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

It’s not that complicated. Canberra does really well in terms of green waste not going to landfill because we have an established culture of self-haul. Whether it’s trailers, ute-loads, bags or via trash packs, green waste currently goes into recycling with little to no expenditure by government. To provide a kerb side green waste collection, the ACT Government would have to take on a significant new cost (either copping it or passing it on in rates & charges) that would not necessarily generate much benefit in either economic or environmental terms.

I support the introduction of a combined green waste / food waste collection bin at kerbside in Canberra, but concede funding this would be a challenge. It’s hard to make the numbers stack up. A food/green waste integrated collection might mean you could switch the landfill bin to a fortnightly collection schedule, delivering some savings, but there would be howls of ‘they-took-our-bins’ protest to manage if the government went down that path.

dungfungus 8:46 am 26 May 16

Mordd said :

Why can’t our local council look after the local council stuff, like picking up the garbage, rather than privatising what is core business? How can we trust the ACT Government to run a $1 billion 12-kilometre tram track when it can’t solve a kerbside garbage collection issue?

You forgot to highlight that both garbage collection and the “polly trolley folly” are/will be controlled by the TWU.

gooterz 11:52 pm 25 May 16

creative_canberran said :

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

Every excuse the ACT Govt makes in response to the green waste bin question is incomprehensible to me.

Light rail is Green waste, however won’t fit in your average wheelie bin!

dungfungus 10:57 pm 25 May 16

Mordd said :

I think the recycling bins should be collected every week along with the “rubbish” bin.

I generally put both bins out on recycling day, neither are full but I know people who have their recycling bin over-flowing by bin day.

Whatever happened to the “green waste” bins they were going to bring in?

They let Shepparton do it instead:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/where-are-the-bags-shepparton-councils-17m-bin-scheme-comes-unstuck/news-story/a9c7428c8a72cf140ca2daf5d738b4df

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