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Police Wrap – 18 September 2010

By johnboy 18 September 2010 46

1. A hero emerges:

ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to an incident in Monash last night in which a 14-year-old boy was assaulted and robbed by a passing motorist.

The youth has admitted to police that he, in the company of another male youth, had been throwing eggs at passing vehicles on Erindale Drive in Monash, adjacent to the Trinity Christian School, last night (Friday, September 17) around 11pm.

One of the eggs struck a white van which has then stopped and given chase.

The van’s male driver has pursued the 14-year-old to a location near the school library where he assaulted the boy, demanded cash from him and also stole his mobile phone.

The offender and driver of the white van was described as Caucasian, around 6’ (183cm) tall, with a balding/receding hairline and a light facial stubble.

Police are urging any witnesses to the incident, or who may be able to provide more information about the offender, to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.


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The Naddiks 10:16 am 02 Oct 10

$700 paint damage to my car door, all for just parking it on the street for two hours one Saturday night. I don’t know how anyone could have thrown an egg that hard at my car and caused damage that when straight thru the pain but they did. As much as I hope the kid is alright and not hurt, I also hope he has learned a serious lesson and doesn’t instead decide to throw large rocks off of bridges next time….

6matt9 2:23 pm 30 Sep 10

So kids are still egging these days!? I thought throwing eggs at cars was a thing of the past like playing outside or 2 cent lollies. Good on the little shits!

LikeWhoa 5:26 pm 20 Sep 10

damien haas said :

My car was egged last weekend, in a drive-by egging. Im sure the eggees thought it was fricken hilarious

Aren’t you the eggee?

smeeagain 3:22 pm 20 Sep 10

I’m going to go against the grain and suggest that the kid went home to mum and dad with a big sob story about the nasty man who pulled over and threatened him for no reason. Mum and Dad, suitably horrified that little Johnny was potentially the victim of a serial predator, phoned the police who raced over.

Little Johnny realises that he has created a slightly bigger fable than he intended to, so tells the police the real reason the guy in the white van pulled over.

Little Johnny lost his phone earlier in the day, but now seizes on the opportunity to get a new one without getting into further trouble from Mum and Dad who are less than impressed when they find out their little darling has been creating mayhem and they wasted the time of the police.

Marvin_78 3:15 pm 20 Sep 10

Holierthanthou said :

“Sometimes lessons need to be learnt “the hard way”.”

Although agree egging is very wrong and dangerous, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

No but two wrongs can sometimes make “an even”.

High fives to Van-Man.
Minus the robbery bit of course… That is pretty crap.

Gerry-Built 12:43 pm 20 Sep 10

Holierthanthou said :

Acually, HolierThanThou gets the point better than you.

Really? Whilst my posts have been addressing very different aspects than you, I think we do agree:

Holierthanthou said :

It is obvious that HtH, myself and every one else thinks the youth’s bevaviour is unacceptable, but mugging (assault and theft) him was wrong.

However, I am quite convinced that it is necessary to stand up to “wrong-doers” – because if we don’t, nothing changes for that person/s, and likely things get worse for society. (Perhaps “stop, catch and release” would have been more acceptable / less illegal)

For instance – it’s not OK to bitch about seeing something bad happen, if you stood by and DID nothing… (and that is not individually directed – just the premise of my responses).

I seriously doubt the egging cars is a ‘normalised’ activity for High-School aged yoofs. After this misadventure – I’m guessing he will never do it again. However, the guy/s he was with – unlikely to have learnt from the ‘lesson’ dished to their friend… as they didn’t face their mistake.

Holierthanthou 11:01 am 20 Sep 10

“Which would be “going over the top” – an extreme. Lenient knew this when it initially was posted, and you know it too”

Acually, HolierThanThou gets the point better than you. Drawing an extreme makes the point the point that the line has to be drawn somewhere with what is acceptable. For some people it might be clip round the ear, a punch to the gut, a punch to face, my righteous iron bar, a bit of a stab with a knife, a kneecapping, amputation, crippling or death. Which is right?

It is obvious that HtH, myself and every one else thinks the youth’s bevaviour is unacceptable, but mugging (assault and theft) him was wrong.

willo 9:40 am 20 Sep 10

“few” years ago….

willo 9:39 am 20 Sep 10

haha……this reminds me of something that happened a sew years ago
It was a sunday afternoon in late summer and i was sitting in the backyard of my cousin’s house having a few beers with a few mates.
A few streets away a mate of mine was doing the same in his own backyard when two teenage clowns walking down the adjacent laneway threw a rock over his fence that hit his dog square on the head, mitch jumped the fence and gave chase the two ratbags had a nice headstart but mitch is a regular triathlon compettitor and was not going to give up easily, the chase went on for awhile up the laneway, through the local shopping centre across the oval of a nearby school and mitch was finally gaining on them.
the two fools decided that since it looked like they couldnt get away they would go to the nearest house for help, yes that’s right, my cousin’s house……i will leave what happened next up to your imaginations but needless to say these two probably no longer throw rocks at innocent dogs.
One of the neighbours called the police reporting a “disturbance” when the two officers who attended heard the story they pissed themselves laughing…….much as i am as i retell the story……oh and yea stealing the kids phone in this instance was going a bit far……

Gerry-Built 7:40 am 20 Sep 10

Holierthanthou said :

Just like mobile phone drivers will learn the hard way from Lenient’s “righteous” use of the iron bar.

Which would be “going over the top” – an extreme. Lenient knew this when it initially was posted, and you know it too. I based what I said on a less extreme view of what might have happened – and made that very clear in my post.

There should be less acceptance of “kids will be kids” in our society (over such events, not usual “actual kid behaviour”), ’cause it bites us back when no-one stands up against it.

When I was about 10 or 11, I bought a potato gun and fired potato pellets at passing cars. A motorist who saw me, pulled over and gave me a stern telling-off. I never repeated anything as stupid ever again. That was a more measured approach…

No-one here knows what constituted “assault” in this case. But it is just as likely it was nothing more than grabbing the kid, as an actual hit/s. People need to “stand up” for what is right (or against what is wrong). This guy took it a little far by stealing phone/cash, yes, but the kid is lucky he didn’t either meet the “wrong person” and end up dead, or cause the death of a passing motorist.

The kid will likely never repeat this sort of stupid behaviour. He is still alive, though probably “shaken”. Lesson learnt. Hard Way. Too extreme to be acceptable, yes – but the result is achieved.

Punter 10:28 pm 19 Sep 10

I take my hat off to the boy for admitting to Police he had been egging cars, albeit the act of vandalism. He has a lot more integrity than the coward who robbed him. In saying this, I recognise the criminal behaviour of the boy and expect he has faced appropriate consequences.

BimboGeek #25, what is wrong with you? Aside from your wild assumptions, I think you’ll find once you take someone into ‘custody’ you are legally required to deliver the person into the custody of a Police Officer. You are certainly not entitled to “have just stolen his ID, snapped a few pics of his face and setup on my mobile phone and moved on”. It seems to me not every Gary who enters a post on RiotAct is civilised.

Holierthanthou 3:05 pm 19 Sep 10

“Sometimes lessons need to be learnt “the hard way”.”

Just like mobile phone drivers will learn the hard way from Lenient’s “righteous” use of the iron bar.

The fact the vigilante/mugger will get away with assault and theft is all the more reason people and bloggers should not legitmise and even glorify this sort of behaviour.

Although agree egging is very wrong and dangerous, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

luther_bendross 2:06 pm 19 Sep 10

I hope he gets a fine in public and an handshake behind closed doors. Legend.

Gerry-Built 12:31 pm 19 Sep 10

Lenient said :

If beating up eggers is a reasonable course of action then I assume posters won’t mind me beating them up with iron bar when I see them risking my life talking on their mobile while driving.

I seriously doubt the egger got a “beating up”. But, any physical response against the child would be considered assault. In the unlikely event it gets to court, I seriously doubt a sane jury would convict the “perpetrator” (assuming it wasn’t a more-thorough beating)…

Sometimes lessons need to be learnt “the hard way”. The kid will probably just post it on fmylife.com and build a bridge – never to repeat his stupidity…

Roadrage77 11:41 am 19 Sep 10

This has made national news. Obviously a slow news week.

Thoroughly Smashed 11:26 am 19 Sep 10

damien haas said :

My car was egged last weekend, in a drive-by egging. Im sure the eggees thought it was fricken hilarious – but it has damaged my paint. I dont condone vigilantism, but really this little shit complaining to the police is unbelievable. What do they expect will happen if they re caught ? A stern talking to like they get at school or their no-smack home.

i would encourage anyone whose car was egged to contact the police for this little shits details so an insurance claim can be lodged.

Somehow I’m not sure your insurance company is likely to see it in quite the same way as you, what with relying on concepts such as evidence and logic that isn’t completely faulty when processing claims.

Herne 11:14 am 19 Sep 10

The egg throwing ratbags deserve all they get!
Egg throwing is becoming common practice esp in the Tuggeranong area in which I live and has been going on for years.

The asswipes that throw eggs possibly have no idea of the damage they cause, my sons VY Commodore was recently egged and the cost to have the area of damaged paint repaired cost $1200.00 Now you can bet the egg throwing kids cant pay for that sort of damage to each car they egg and their parents sure wont cough up. To claim a small amount on insurance isn’t beneficial either.

The Police can rarely catch the culprits nor do they overly care when you bother to report an incident to them!

Most of the cars in our street in Gilmore have been egged as have many of the houses.
I would like to shake the guys hand who was able to catch these toerags.

I note the culprits didnt waste much time before they reported the incident and I hope they get duly charged and prosecuted on top of the flogging they received….

Gerry-Built 9:46 am 19 Sep 10

Deref said :

A clip around the ear would have been appropriate.

it may have only been a “clip around the ear” …which would still constitute “Assault”…

Gerry-Built 9:44 am 19 Sep 10

Thumper said :

A bit extreme in retaliation, but I doubt the little toe rag will be lobbing eggs at cars any more.

+1. Fully agree…

Lenient 9:01 am 19 Sep 10

“hero”?

This person has committed a worse crime than the 14yo. Maybe we need another ‘hero’ to maim this person and then another “superhero” to murder this one and then another to commit genocide of the superher’s race. All in the name of justice.

The 14yo was definitely in the wrong and should be punished but this does justify violence. If beating up eggers is a reasonable course of action then I assume posters won’t mind me beating them up with iron bar when I see them risking my life talking on their mobile while driving.

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