The Airport's sneak attack on the Tralee development

I was really just referring to the comments on this particular article, but comments on previous articles on this site have been pretty similar. I’m sure there are people in favour of the development (probably because they’ll make money on it), but you won’t find too many of them here.

Erg0 – You arent looking hard enough. There is plenty of comments after articles saying there is no reason not to build and it is good for the area etc…. Who wants to live next to an industrial estate? 24hr asphalt plant and garbage trucks and freight companies? Luckily enough i am not down that end but for those who think its a great idea, i wonder if you’re stepping up to buy a house there???

The strange thing is, I can’t see a single comment in support of the developers…

Chop71 Quote : FLAME OF THE WEEK nomination please , cry cry cry cry
Mate your an idiot, keep your meaningless comments to yourself!

Honestly, how stupid do you have to be to build residential properties under a flight path?

TraleeIsHome said :

To all those people in support of Tralee…..
Put the shoe on your own foot and think of it as if it were your own family property and it got rezoned and your say didnt make a difference. Your all going off statistics and big idiots that just want to develop for money and not worry about those that already live there and have been there since Tralee began. What are VBC gunna do for us? So far they propose they arent even going to establish new access roads to the people that live there….The speedway/riding school has been trashed by no-hopers and Hume is a complete crime town these days EVERY night of the week! Not only that, who wants to live next to a 24 hour asphalt plant, because theres one almost completed and due to start in a few months time which is right over the fence from the development. Suck up all those fumes guys!…. So get back in your boxes and dont comment on what you dont know about! Itd b different if developers wanted to develop on your house!!

FLAME OF THE WEEK nomination please , cry cry cry cry

To all those people in support of Tralee…..
Put the shoe on your own foot and think of it as if it were your own family property and it got rezoned and your say didnt make a difference. Your all going off statistics and big idiots that just want to develop for money and not worry about those that already live there and have been there since Tralee began. What are VBC gunna do for us? So far they propose they arent even going to establish new access roads to the people that live there….The speedway/riding school has been trashed by no-hopers and Hume is a complete crime town these days EVERY night of the week! Not only that, who wants to live next to a 24 hour asphalt plant, because theres one almost completed and due to start in a few months time which is right over the fence from the development. Suck up all those fumes guys!…. So get back in your boxes and dont comment on what you dont know about! Itd b different if developers wanted to develop on your house!!

“For my two bob’s worth, the land should be used for a combination of industrial (we need a lot more of that around the ACT region) and intensive horticulture – greenhouses and hydroponics. We need to start cutting food miles by producing what food we can locally. And you can produce a heap in a small space using the right methods. Teamed together, the industrial roof space would augment the water supply needed for the horticulture.”

We seem to have plenty of local entrepreneurs who have grasped the ‘food miles’ principle in terms of using hydroponics – occasionally they get busted. And thanks, S., for pointing out the fallacy, which is a version of why it is better to trade than to be ‘self-sufficient’.

I am also fascinated by so called environmentalists who think that removing water from the surrounding area via roof water into a tank is good, but collecting it on a larger scale in a dam is bad. If it is not the principle, but the scale, that you object to, grateful to receive your views on the cutting-off point.

Did anyone see “Selling Houses Extreme Australia” last night with the house in Kurnell.

300 planes a day and next to an oil refinery
Could be the next Tralee, just minus the beach

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-au&biw=1004&bih=612&q=kurnell&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Kurnell+New+South+Wales&gl=au&ei=3MevTevlHMTirAfalsmOCQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQ8gEwAA

p1 said :

If Tralee does get rezoned and developed, you can be sure that Snow et al will build the biggest, dodgiest blocks of flats they can fit on their share of the land.

Yep, ditto. And they’ll rort the height rules if there are any. The minute they can build residential at the airport, watch that go up, too. They’re got two un-rented very large office blocks near Brand Depot so it might happen sooner than thought.

D2 said :

p1 said :

If I was the airport, I would start up the most offensive land use permitted under the current rural zoning. Perhaps as combination piggery and blood-and-bone storage depot?

I’d build large blocks of flats and advertise them as convenient to transport.

If Tralee does get rezoned and developed, you can be sure that Snow et al will build the biggest, dodgiest blocks of flats they can fit on their share of the land.

Swaggie said :

Anything that makes life awkward for that odious creep Winnel get a big thumbs up from me and while Snow and Co may be a pain in the ass I can’t deny they get the job done.

+1

Sadly, the job that they get done only benefits the Snows and screws everyone else. Still, can’t argue with either proposition.

Anything that makes life awkward for that odious creep Winnel get a big thumbs up from me and while Snow and Co may be a pain in the ass I can’t deny they get the job done.

D2 said :

p1 said :

If I was the airport, I would start up the most offensive land use permitted under the current rural zoning. Perhaps as combination piggery and blood-and-bone storage depot?

I’d build large blocks of flats and advertise them as convenient to transport.

i’d build a speedway and a dragstrip and throw enough prizemoney at both so that they run EVERY weekend of the year…….that should be “offensive” enough….hmm?

I fly a fair bit and every time we come into Canberra, we approach from the south. There’s a crapload of houses we already fly over so I’m eternally puzzled by Snow’s focus on Tralee.

They’re cunning though, no doubt about it. Witness that front-pager in the CT last week about what to do with Brand Depot now that all the tenants had just upped and left. To read the airport’s spokesman in that article, you’d never think that the securing of a big new tenant was what prompted the airport to terminate the leases of all the current/ex tenants, to the extent of actually buying many of them out.

Skidbladnir said :

The entire ISO14000 compliance series exists for a damn good reason and is auditable.
‘Foodmiles’ on the other hand dumbs down a complicated idea to the point ofimplausability, dilutes actual production and logistical energy efficiency gains, and deceives consumers, in favour of a profit-maximal marketing idea.

Fun facts: Transport from producer to consumer only makes up somewhere between 4 and 9% of energy input and greenhouse gas output. The majority of emmissions come from production of fertilisers and input feed.

+1.
Good to see somebody is thinking outside the square!

p1 said :

If I was the airport, I would start up the most offensive land use permitted under the current rural zoning. Perhaps as combination piggery and blood-and-bone storage depot?

I’d build large blocks of flats and advertise them as convenient to transport.

Gungahlin Al said :

…food miles…

Oh gods, you’re one of those people.

The entire ISO14000 compliance series exists for a damn good reason and is auditable.
‘Foodmiles’ on the other hand dumbs down a complicated idea to the point ofimplausability, dilutes actual production and logistical energy efficiency gains, and deceives consumers, in favour of a profit-maximal marketing idea.

Fun facts: Transport from producer to consumer only makes up somewhere between 4 and 9% of energy input and greenhouse gas output. The majority of emmissions come from production of fertilisers and input feed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_14000

Gungahlin Al said :

For my two bob’s worth, the land should be used for a combination of industrial (we need a lot more of that around the ACT region) and intensive horticulture – greenhouses and hydroponics. We need to start cutting food miles by producing what food we can locally. And you can produce a heap in a small space using the right methods. Teamed together, the industrial roof space would augment the water supply needed for the horticulture.

If I was the airport, I would start up the most offensive land use permitted under the current rural zoning. Perhaps as combination piggery and blood-and-bone storage depot?

Sammy said :

I can’t believe it took them this long to think of it. I mean seriously, they’ve spent countless millions on this already in legal costs.

I can’t believe that some of the land in question was NOT in Winnell’s hands.

You have to give them credit – this is an amazingly clever move. Love to know exactly what bit of land this pertains to and how it fits into the overall plan. We just need a curfew so this doesnh’t translate into their much-desired 24/7 freight hub.

For my two bob’s worth, the land should be used for a combination of industrial (we need a lot more of that around the ACT region) and intensive horticulture – greenhouses and hydroponics. We need to start cutting food miles by producing what food we can locally. And you can produce a heap in a small space using the right methods. Teamed together, the industrial roof space would augment the water supply needed for the horticulture.

Similar approach for the land to the north of the airport.

I can’t believe it took them this long to think of it. I mean seriously, they’ve spent countless millions on this already in legal costs.

Snap can’t wait for the comeback

geez….i really hope they bought the bit that has the old speedway on it…….pumping some $ into it and gettin it going again would really piss the other mob off………it’d make me quite happy tho…..

I can hear the rustling of cardigans and whooshing of sticks waiving already…

I read about this this morning. Beautiful.

How difficult would it be for a bit of palm grease to have CPC’s holding excised from the rest of the land, allowing Village’s development to go ahead?