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Staffers reminded that they aren’t actually ministers

By johnboy 8 January 2009 35

The Herald Sun has a piece of bad news for Ministerial Staffers in the Rudd Government.

They’re being turfed out of the Comcar system and will have to make their own transport arrangements like the rest of us.

That they aren’t actually as important as members of parliament will come as a dreadful shock to some.

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BerraBoy68 4:17 pm 09 Jan 09

ant said :

BerraBoy68 said :

You’r right ant, Alston was OK. He wasn’t above talking to us plebs about the important messages we wanted/needed hi to say at industry events we’d organised. Did you work in DCITA (Dep’t of Coms IT and Arts)? Either way, sounds like we might have known some of the same people.

Yep, I was there during the bushfires! Was located right over the top of Sweeney Todd’s cafe (t’s improved now, I notice).

Alston was always very courteous, his current role suits his manners, I think. Although the time he rang, and then wanted me to put him through to the boss’s mobile flummoxed me somewhat!

LOL. I must have been there prior to you. I was gone by the time the fires came through. The cafe is called ‘Sweeny Todds’?! It was ‘Bazaarts’ when I was there.

peterh 3:58 pm 09 Jan 09

Skidbladnir said :

Advisors are the spawn of satan, and Ministerial minutes\briefings are their chosen instruments of despair.

don’t forget the lobbyists. always wanted to get a job as a lobbyist. buggered if i knew what they did.

OT, if the staffers want free travel and other perks, get them to run in the next election.

ant 3:47 pm 09 Jan 09

BerraBoy68 said :

You’r right ant, Alston was OK. He wasn’t above talking to us plebs about the important messages we wanted/needed hi to say at industry events we’d organised. Did you work in DCITA (Dep’t of Coms IT and Arts)? Either way, sounds like we might have known some of the same people.

Yep, I was there during the bushfires! Was located right over the top of Sweeney Todd’s cafe (t’s improved now, I notice).

Alston was always very courteous, his current role suits his manners, I think. Although the time he rang, and then wanted me to put him through to the boss’s mobile flummoxed me somewhat!

Skidbladnir 2:56 pm 09 Jan 09

Advisors are the spawn of satan, and Ministerial minutes\briefings are their chosen instruments of despair.

Thumper 2:40 pm 09 Jan 09

Advisors are the devil’s spawn.

BerraBoy68 2:26 pm 09 Jan 09

ant said :

BerraBoy68 said :

Alston, when he was ICT Minister used to hire some of his advisers straight from Melb. Uni and they lacked any experience in the roles they were meant to be advising on, let alone life in general.

I quite liked Alston, he was a gentleman, but some of the delightful little pieces who worked for him were vile. Arrogant and ignorant. Parliamentary liaison with people like that was frustrating to say the least.

You’r right ant, Alston was OK. He wasn’t above talking to us plebs about the important messages we wanted/needed hi to say at industry events we’d organised. Did you work in DCITA (Dep’t of Coms IT and Arts)? Either way, sounds like we might have known some of the same people.

sepi 2:16 pm 09 Jan 09

The Public service is accountable, Ministers are accountable.

Ministerial advisers are not. This leads to Ministerial advisers perhaps not passing on important info to the Minister, if that info should be something the Minister wants to be able to deny knowing about later – eg Kids overboard.

jube_V8Fairlane_235kw 2:15 pm 09 Jan 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

I see your point V8_Fairlane, but look beyond the interdepartmental charging. How much is this actually costing the taxpayer?

It is costing us a fortune! I was just trying to point out that the service doesn’t sit around at a fixed cost, and inter-departmental charging is probably costing us more than just having the cars available for use. The use of hire cars exclusively would still cost a bomb. A ComCar bus running to and from the airport for staffers in sitting weeks would probably save all of us a motza.

Thumper 9:29 am 09 Jan 09

First Assistant Secretary.

jakez 9:26 am 09 Jan 09

What’s a FAS?

jakez 9:22 am 09 Jan 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

How to reform the Ministerial staffing system:

– sack all current Ministerial staffers, and ban them from such offices for life
– advertise for new staffers
– ban all applicants from holding such offices for life, because they’re the same kinds of bumsucking, greedy, clueless sycophants as the last lot
– appoint staffers from within the public service – those most reluctant to go are probably most qualified for the job.

Perhaps we should do away with Ministers and just have the Public Service make all the decisions.

ant 9:05 am 09 Jan 09

BerraBoy68 said :

Alston, when he was ICT Minister used to hire some of his advisers straight from Melb. Uni and they lacked any experience in the roles they were meant to be advising on, let alone life in general.

I quite liked Alston, he was a gentleman, but some of the delightful little pieces who worked for him were vile. Arrogant and ignorant. Parliamentary liaison with people like that was frustrating to say the least.

justbands 8:56 am 09 Jan 09

> It’s the internet, justbands. Try not to take things too seriously.

Yeah…I know, sorry. 🙂

BerraBoy68 6:54 am 09 Jan 09

justbands said :

How did you reach the conclusion that they are all bumsucking, greedy, clueless sycophants Woody?

The only one I know personally is hard working, very clever, certainly not greedy & whos first thoughts are always for others over herself.

& on topic, she’s never used a comcar, even after waiting well over an hour on multiple occasions for cabs.

I’ve known a quite a few after working in Parliamentary liaison positions in various departments and high profile areas in some of the big Depts. Some are good at their jobs others are awful. Alston, when he was ICT Minister used to hire some of his advisers straight from Melb. Uni and they lacked any experience in the roles they were meant to be advising on, let alone life in general. The worst one though is a guy who was over promoted by about 2 two positions (at least – by a guy that is about to find himself unemployed when his SES contract expires in a few weeks) and was considered by those around him (including staff, his peers and bosses) to be a complete non-event and a waste of time. Rather than sacking him they gave him to an incoming Labor Minister as an adviser just to get him out of there.

miz 9:30 pm 08 Jan 09

Ant’s FAS (#12) – nice to know some are more judicious with their spending of tax dollars. In contrast, our just-retired FAS who had just returned from an OS holiday to an Asian country starting with V, told everyone at a division meeting how amazed she was at how expensive the trip was. It had been that long time since she had paid like normal people. And of course, any trip would seem expensive compared to the usual – er – ‘free’ (ie government-paid, business class) travel!

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