Yarralumla ram raiders on the run

LSWCHP said :

I hate these scum. They feel that satisfying their needs is the absolute most important thing on earth, above all common decency or consideration for others, so they will smash someones shop, causing untold expense and misery to satisfy their their desire for money, drugs or whatever.

In my opinion, those who would do something like this in a planned and deliberate fashion have chosen to place themselves outside the accepted boundaries of or civilization, and they should be removed from it.

Personally, I’d have no qualms about shooting them as an expedient method or removal.

I agree absolutely. +1

what_the said :

Skidbladnir said :

Chop71 said :

KeenGolfer said :

Aggravated = 2 or more people or with an offensive weapon as per the legislation.

So the car is the weapon…?

Not at all.
Multiple people makes this one aggravated.

Criminal Code 2002
Section 312: Aggravated burglary
A person commits an offence (aggravated burglary) if the person—
(a) commits burglary in company with 1 or more people; or
(b) commits burglary and, at the time of the burglary, has an offensive weapon with him or her.
Maximum penalty: 2 000 penalty units, imprisonment for 20 years or both.

Hang on, they didn’t steal anything from the shop though? Wouldn’t it be willful descruction of property and a separate offence for stealing the car? I’m just wondering how they’ve be convicted of burglary if they haven’t stolen anything (besides the car).

Ps, in no way am I defending the actions of these idiots!

Ah, a quick check of the Criminal Code sorted this one out for me:

Burglary
(1) A person commits an offence (burglary) if the person enters or
remains in a building as a trespasser with intent—
(a) to commit theft of any property in the building; or
(b) to commit an offence that involves causing harm, or
threatening to cause harm, to anyone in the building; or
(c) to commit an offence in the building that—
(i) involves causing damage to property; and
(ii) is punishable by imprisonment for 5 years or longer.
Maximum penalty: 1 400 penalty units, imprisonment for 14 years
or both.

Heard on the radio this morning they nabbed someone for this, on the basis of locating the damaged vehicle.

Skidbladnir said :

Chop71 said :

KeenGolfer said :

Aggravated = 2 or more people or with an offensive weapon as per the legislation.

So the car is the weapon…?

Not at all.
Multiple people makes this one aggravated.

Criminal Code 2002
Section 312: Aggravated burglary
A person commits an offence (aggravated burglary) if the person—
(a) commits burglary in company with 1 or more people; or
(b) commits burglary and, at the time of the burglary, has an offensive weapon with him or her.
Maximum penalty: 2 000 penalty units, imprisonment for 20 years or both.

Hang on, they didn’t steal anything from the shop though? Wouldn’t it be willful descruction of property and a separate offence for stealing the car? I’m just wondering how they’ve be convicted of burglary if they haven’t stolen anything (besides the car).

Ps, in no way am I defending the actions of these idiots!

Wow, possible 20 years just because you share the robbery with a friend. Way smarter to perform the deed solo (you don’t have to split the profits), lessen the risk and penalty should you get caught.

Chop71 said :

KeenGolfer said :

Aggravated = 2 or more people or with an offensive weapon as per the legislation.

So the car is the weapon…?

Not at all.
Multiple people makes this one aggravated.

Criminal Code 2002
Section 312: Aggravated burglary
A person commits an offence (aggravated burglary) if the person—
(a) commits burglary in company with 1 or more people; or
(b) commits burglary and, at the time of the burglary, has an offensive weapon with him or her.
Maximum penalty: 2 000 penalty units, imprisonment for 20 years or both.

KeenGolfer said :

Chop71 said :

what makes it aggravated? because they used a car?
I would have though if there was no-one to get aggresive too, then how could it be aggravated?

Aggravated = 2 or more people or with an offensive weapon as per the legislation.

So the car is the weapon? even at 3.20am with no-one around. I think they should come up with a better word than aggravated.

I hate these scum. They feel that satisfying their needs is the absolute most important thing on earth, above all common decency or consideration for others, so they will smash someones shop, causing untold expense and misery to satisfy their their desire for money, drugs or whatever.

In my opinion, those who would do something like this in a planned and deliberate fashion have chosen to place themselves outside the accepted boundaries of or civilization, and they should be removed from it.

Personally, I’d have no qualms about shooting them as an expedient method or removal.

Chop71 said :

what makes it aggravated? because they used a car?
I would have though if there was no-one to get aggresive too, then how could it be aggravated?

Aggravated = 2 or more people or with an offensive weapon as per the legislation.

what makes it aggravated? because they used a car?
I would have though if there was no-one to get aggresive too, then how could it be aggravated?