12 October 2008

Candidate Questionaires for 12 October

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Here are the answers to your questions, from local election candidates, which have come in over the weekend:

John Hargreaves, Labor for Brindabella.
Eleanor Bates, Labor for Molonglo.

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Most will know I’m not a hardcore fan of Laura Norder, but this (from Hargreaves’) sounds sensible and probably deserves wider prominence:

If re-elected a Labor Government will introduce legislation to amend the Crimes Act to modernise the offence of murder and bring it into line with equivalent provisions in other states and territories. Currently in the ACT murder can only be proven if it is shown that an accused intended to bring about death by their acts or knew that death would result. The Government will reform the offence so that persons who cause death while intending to inflict grievous bodily harm on their victim can be convicted of murder. Persons who engage in such conduct are currently liable to be convicted of manslaughter only. One effect of this reform will be to expose offenders who cause death in these circumstances to the higher maximum penalty that is available for murder.

If anyone is to be termed Lofty, it has to be Gary Kent – Brendan Smyth is Wilt Chamberlain in comparison.

BarryF said :

jakez said :

From my experience as a Party Member for a couple of years, Giulia seems to be one of the more sensible (read, not extreme) members of the Liberal Party in the ACT. I can’t think of a single extreme thing I’ve heard her say or do.

As for Gungahlin, she’s been talking about Gungahlin nonstop for the last year and a half now so she always seemed committed.

She’s not the candidate I’m spruiking (Matthew Watts, Liberal Candidate for Ginninderra, http://www.wattstherightchoice.com) but the claims above just don’t ring true.

Jake you are kidding, you were a party trouble maker along with Alistair Coe. Please wake up and smell the roses, Giulia is an absolute right wing extremeist. You obviously never spent anytime with her. She used to work at Women’s Forum Australia with that other extremist Melinda Tankard Reist, need I say more.

At leaset you have come to your senses and are now supporting Matt Watts – the dark horse.

Are you saying that I was a trouble maker ‘with’ Alistair Coe as in I was factionally aligned with him or that you just feel that both Alistair and I are trouble makers, though with separate agendas? If the former then you don’t know what you are talking about. If the latter, I fail to see your point (but am pleased to have the honorific).

As for Giulia can you be more specific as to what issue positions she holds that you think maker her extremist?

Richard “even angrier voice” Mulchay?

Tosspot.

“Matt Watts – the dark horse”

Can we come up with nickames for each of the candidates (ie different to their slogans)?

jakez said :

From my experience as a Party Member for a couple of years, Giulia seems to be one of the more sensible (read, not extreme) members of the Liberal Party in the ACT. I can’t think of a single extreme thing I’ve heard her say or do.

As for Gungahlin, she’s been talking about Gungahlin nonstop for the last year and a half now so she always seemed committed.

She’s not the candidate I’m spruiking (Matthew Watts, Liberal Candidate for Ginninderra, http://www.wattstherightchoice.com) but the claims above just don’t ring true.

Jake you are kidding, you were a party trouble maker along with Alistair Coe. Please wake up and smell the roses, Giulia is an absolute right wing extremeist. You obviously never spent anytime with her. She used to work at Women’s Forum Australia with that other extremist Melinda Tankard Reist, need I say more.

At leaset you have come to your senses and are now supporting Matt Watts – the dark horse.

From my experience as a Party Member for a couple of years, Giulia seems to be one of the more sensible (read, not extreme) members of the Liberal Party in the ACT. I can’t think of a single extreme thing I’ve heard her say or do.

As for Gungahlin, she’s been talking about Gungahlin nonstop for the last year and a half now so she always seemed committed.

She’s not the candidate I’m spruiking (Matthew Watts, Liberal Candidate for Ginninderra, http://www.wattstherightchoice.com) but the claims above just don’t ring true.

maryhow said :

Well Giulia has been trying to get elected in two other states. She just wants a job in politics for the pay packet. She couldn’t help you if you paid her, and I hope we don’t.

As opposed to being a party hack yourself??

Jonathon

To answer your question where have they been for four years.

Well Giulia has been trying to get elected in two other states. She just wants a job in politics for the pay packet. She couldn’t help you if you paid her, and I hope we don’t.

Jonathon Reynolds9:01 pm 12 Oct 08

@maryhow/Primal:
As a long term Gungahlin resident, and someone that is passionate for the advancement of the local area, neither of these candidates are getting a preference from me.

What irks me about so called “local” candidates in general is that they tend to be like maggots feasting over a rotting piece of meat during the election campaign and once the election is over they can not be found until the next electoral cycle. What riles me even more are candidates such as these two who claim to have a tight local involvement and strong long term affiliation to the area and falsely attempt to capitalise on that tenuous link. Yes they have been out there campaigning and knocking on doors, but where were they for the last four years when we really needed community advocates to feed in to their respective parties?

Watch the first 30 minutes of the GCC meet the candidates video and you’ll see what I mean:
http://www.gcc.asn.au/Meetings-notices/Meeting-videos/gcc-meeting-the-act-candidates-event-08-october-2008.html The “introduce yourself” opportunity was deliberately structured so that all candidates could properly introduce themselves and elucidate clearly what they have done for the local area.

@Primal:
There are candidates out there that are prepared to admit that Gungahlin is not on their electoral radar. I’d much rather have that level of honesty and integrity. You then have candidates such as Mike Hettinger (ALP) who has been vocal and active in various local communities for the last 4 years (he has been campaigning since the last election)… Though I don’t subscribe to Labor’s ideology he shows the sort of work ethic and attitude from candidate I’d preference higher on the ballot paper.

Jon Reynolds, still a bit bitter mate?

Maryhow, Eleanor Bates is nice, but as sharp as a bowling ball.

Vote Giulia – at least she will have a go!

Jonathon Reynolds said :

Just like Liberal Giulia Jones, the ALP’s Eleanor Bates had absolutely no public interest in Gungahlin prior to her preselection.

I put money on that when they are both unsuccessful at Saturdays election they will both once again disappear back in to the shadows not to be seen until the next election.

Yeah, ’cause you know about every single thing that happens in Gungahlin. The half-dozen genuine residents that turned up to your GCC forum are just a fraction of the thousands-strong spy network that you run from Nicholls to Harrison.

Jonathon Reynolds said :

Just like Liberal Giulia Jones, the ALP’s Eleanor Bates had absolutely no public interest in Gungahlin prior to her preselection.

JR, while your cynicism is probably justified, would you prefer that a Molonglo candidate hailing from say Civic or Woden simply ignored Gungahlin altogether? Better to have someone else’s plan to offer your area than no plan at all.

Jonathon Reynolds said :

Just like Liberal Giulia Jones, the ALP’s Eleanor Bates had absolutely no public interest in Gungahlin prior to her preselection.

I put money on that when they are both unsuccessful at Saturdays election they will both once again disappear back in to the shadows not to be seen until the next election.

I wouldn’t usually agree with you Jonathon but I think you are correct. Giulia with no “G” spot is from what I hear is an extreme part of the right wing of the liberal party. Like we need more right wing christian nut cases in Government like we need more drunk ministers. She didn’t turn up to the Womens Electoral Lobby breakfast because she didn’t want to be outed for her extreme views on Abortion and right to life. How come no one prints that. Not enough honesty in the media, thank heavens for Riot Act.

Eleanor Bates on the other hand isn’t a nut case, she is just a nice party hack thats had breast cancer. She has certainly run a more dignified campaign than Giulia who turns up to my shopping centre and takes over the crossing with what seems like 10 people so you can’t even get a trolley in or out of the shopping centre. All her material seems like it came stright out of head office. As if she is getting us a pool, or the extention to the GDE or Green Bins. There is nothing about her on her material about how long she has been here or what she has done for Canberra. Thats because she came her 5 minutes ago.

Vote Eleanor Bates over Giulia

“I have the welfare of my constituents at heart; I always have and always will”

This is the guy who was driving along the Parkway while under the influence of alcohol after post Budget celebrations? I’d like to see how his constituents welfare concerns would have measured up if he’d mown one of them down while driving home.

Jonathon Reynolds6:32 pm 12 Oct 08

Just like Liberal Giulia Jones, the ALP’s Eleanor Bates had absolutely no public interest in Gungahlin prior to her preselection.

I put money on that when they are both unsuccessful at Saturdays election they will both once again disappear back in to the shadows not to be seen until the next election.

johnboy said :

Here’s your man.

There’s a reason I’ve been calling the motorist’s party “one nation on wheels”!

Haha nice one!

Here’s your man.

There’s a reason I’ve been calling the motorist’s party “one nation on wheels”!

I particularly liked this from Burl’s candidate profile:

“His dislikes are protesters, drugs in society and political correctness.”

Hargraves answer to question 2 was the best I’ve seen so far for that one:

2) Who would you least like to see elected, and why?

Burl Doble because he was a member of the One Nation Party, ran in the Federal Election of 2004, and whose views on multiculturalism I find abhorrent.

Never heard of ‘Burl’ (Burt?) Doble but it horrifies me to know he is running. Is he an independent or actually running for one nation?

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