Change to Melrose and Eggleston intersection

magiccar9 said :

Road safety isn’t a difficult concept to grasp, even for children.

The most recent accident quoted in that article was for a three year old boy. It may be that you have never had the joy and burden of bringing up children, but to try to flip the bird at the situation shows a lack of judgement and compassion.

The concept of road safety may be relatively simple, although probably not for a three year old. The practice – staying safe near high speed traffic is considerably more difficult. Show me a parent who can say that their child was always under control, always in eyesight, always in reach… I don’t believe it.

So sorry your “concept of road safety” just doesn’t cut it. Asking drivers to (shock, horror) slow down a little is a small price to pay for the health and safety of the old, the young, the drunk, the infirm and even those who have “just a moment of carelessness”. Death or maiming is a high price to pay to shave two minutes off your commute.

patrick_keogh said :

magiccar9 said :

Is being a pedestrian really that difficult now days that we have to reduce the speeds of roads to accommodate them?

[snip]

When can we get back to a time where cars used roads built for cars, drivers focused on driving, and pedestrians and cyclists took a little self responsibility to get across a damn road.

Tell that to the parents… http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/threeyearold-abbass-farhat-fights-for-life-after-being-hit-by-car-20140522-38rl6.html

From the article “There were four children hit by cars in NSW this week”.

What’s your point? Teach your children road safety or accept that this sort of thing can occur. Road safety isn’t a difficult concept to grasp, even for children.

Overall these new arrangements seem to be working well.

A couple of downsides though:

1. In the afternoon peak hour the line of cars waiting to turn right from Botany St into Hindmarsh Drive, now seems longer and twice this week was backed up beyond the Townshend St roundabout which was causing problems there.

2. Nothing has been done to stop the afternoon peak hour rat running through Botany Street and Chifley by westbound motorists trying to avoid the congestion on Hindmarsh drive Between Botany Street and Melrose Drive. There is a problem with drivers going from Botany Street across 3 lanes of Melrose Drive and into Eggleston Crescent. While they try and wait for a break in the traffic they block drivers who want to legitimately turn left from Botany Street into Melrose Drive. This maneuver should be disallowed and the new solid white lines along the southbound lanes of Melrose Drive should begin sooner and start from Botany Street. This wouldn’t have a huge impact on Chifley residents as they could exit Phillip by utilising Paramatta Street.

magiccar9 said :

Is being a pedestrian really that difficult now days that we have to reduce the speeds of roads to accommodate them? [snip] When can we get back to a time where cars used roads built for cars, drivers focused on driving, and pedestrians and cyclists took a little self responsibility to get across a damn road.

Tell that to the parents… http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/threeyearold-abbass-farhat-fights-for-life-after-being-hit-by-car-20140522-38rl6.html

From the article “There were four children hit by cars in NSW this week”.

BicycleCanberra said :

dks00k said :

So TAMS cannot commence roadworks now without first issuing a media release?
How much notice would you like?

Work has already been completed actually! Not sure who his advisers are

shame the same thing cannot be said for the 200m duplication of erindale drive between sternberg cres and ashley drive. that project was due to be completed by now.

Is being a pedestrian really that difficult now days that we have to reduce the speeds of roads to accommodate them? I know the speed reduction is primarily for the roadworks (which let’s face it will drag on with no visible workers on site 80% of the time) but the fact that they needed to state it will increase pedestrian safety is ridiculous. When can we get back to a time where cars used roads built for cars, drivers focused on driving, and pedestrians and cyclists took a little self responsibility to get across a damn road.

Gershwin said :

“…will come into effect on Monday 19 May 2014. Variable message boards will be installed in the week leading up to the change…”

– Media release dated 22 May (http://www.cmd.act.gov.au/open_government/inform/act_government_media_releases/rattenbury/2014/intersection-upgrades-on-melrose-drive)

Nice one.

More a case of being hoisted with your own petard. The orignal version was released on the 8th, the new version with error correction today.

dks00k said :

So TAMS cannot commence roadworks now without first issuing a media release?
How much notice would you like?

Work has already been completed actually! Not sure who his advisers are

So TAMS cannot commence roadworks now without first issuing a media release?
How much notice would you like?

“…will come into effect on Monday 19 May 2014. Variable message boards will be installed in the week leading up to the change…”

– Media release dated 22 May (http://www.cmd.act.gov.au/open_government/inform/act_government_media_releases/rattenbury/2014/intersection-upgrades-on-melrose-drive)

Nice one.