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Parkway smash

johnboy 2 June 2013 24

ACT Policing’s Collision Investigation and Reconstruction Team are investigating a two vehicle collision last night (Saturday, June 1) in Canberra’s south.

Around 9:50pm two vehicles collided on the Tuggeranong Parkway, causing one vehicle to spin out of control and hit a tree.

An 18-year-old man was trapped in the car and ACT Fire & Rescue extracted the teenager.

The man was transported to The Canberra Hospital with life threatening injuries.

A female passenger in the same vehicle was transported to hospital for precautionary measures.

The driver and passenger in the second vehicle did not suffer any injuries.
Superintendent Kylie Flower of Traffic Operations said that drivers need to be cautious on the roads given the weather conditions.

“The inclement weather offers a timely reminder to Canberra drivers to slow down, turn their lights on and always drive to the conditions; this includes taking the initiative to pull over, when safe to do so, if conditions become too dangerous” Superintendent Flower said.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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eily eily 6:59 pm 07 Jun 13

stormboy said :

I recently saw a ute with a sticker on it that said, “I’m a vet, therefore I drive like an animal”.

Suddenly I realised how many gynocologists there must be on the roads in Canberra.

Or proctologists.

switch switch 3:32 pm 07 Jun 13

stormboy said :

I recently saw a ute with a sticker on it that said, “I’m a vet, therefore I drive like an animal”.

Suddenly I realised how many gynocologists there must be on the roads in Canberra.

You mean they drive like pussies?

patrick_keogh patrick_keogh 3:21 pm 07 Jun 13

stormboy said :

I recently saw a ute with a sticker on it that said, “I’m a vet, therefore I drive like an animal”.

Suddenly I realised how many gynocologists there must be on the roads in Canberra.

Gold.

stormboy stormboy 2:47 pm 07 Jun 13

I recently saw a ute with a sticker on it that said, “I’m a vet, therefore I drive like an animal”.

Suddenly I realised how many gynocologists there must be on the roads in Canberra.

James-T-Kirk James-T-Kirk 2:18 pm 07 Jun 13

Wily_Bear said :

milkman said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

And stop texting.

Nooooooo!! If they stop us texting, then we can’t tell our mates we will be 2 minutes late to the pub because of the people driving slowly!

James-T-Kirk James-T-Kirk 2:17 pm 07 Jun 13

KB1971 said :

Felix the Cat said :

Seriously, how do they manage to have a crash on one of the straightest and smoothest roads in Canberra?

Quite easy in the rain, the Tuggeranong Parkway doesn’t drain particularly well and can get sheets of water on it from the drain points in the concrete barriers. I have a few hairy moments with water on that road.

Of course, we must never forget the typical Canberra drivers tendency to maintain a maximum vehicle spacing of about 30cm at 100Km/h, which makes for interesting times when the car in front decides to break suddenly when they look up from their paper and discover that they missed their turnoff….,

c_c™ c_c™ 2:08 pm 07 Jun 13

KB1971 said :

Felix the Cat said :

Seriously, how do they manage to have a crash on one of the straightest and smoothest roads in Canberra?

Quite easy in the rain, the Tuggeranong Parkway doesn’t drain particularly well and can get sheets of water on it from the drain points in the concrete barriers. I have a few hairy moments with water on that road.

I’m curious, what tyres do you have on your car?

I’ve had three types of tyre on my car over its life and how each has dealt with the wet has made a remarkable difference. On my current tyres, that stretch is not an issue at all doing 100 in the wet. On the previous type, still wasn’t a concern (but not as good) and on the original OEMs, I’d actually agree that it could be quite treacherous.

There’s talk on here about speed limits and road surface but they’re both useless if the rubber isn’t up to scratch.

astrojax astrojax 1:01 pm 07 Jun 13

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

it should be 30 all the time – that way, when ‘hoons’ do double the speed limit, they’ll still actually be driving fairly safely on that stretch of road [albeit copping hefty fines and lengthy disqualification periods]. someone make me transport minister, quick.

fromthecapital fromthecapital 10:48 am 07 Jun 13

tim_c said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

No thanks, I don’t really want to live in a nanny State (or Territory). Someone who needs a maximum speed mandated for every changing condition should have their licence reconsidered. Part of driving is making decisions about what is safe, even if it means going slower than the posted limit. If a driver needs someone else to dictate this for them, we might be better off if they went back to a Learner class licence as it seems they need a properly licensed driver to supervise them at all times.

Innovation said :

milkman said :

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

Good list but was your omission of the need to “slow down and, potentially, drive significantly below the speed limit” deliberate or accidental?

Nah, that’s nonsense – we all know you should drive faster to get home quicker because, statistically, the less time you spend on the road, the less chance you have of being in a collision 🙂

That kind rule works well on french highways… 130 when dry, 110 when wet. Makes a lot of sense

tim_c tim_c 10:19 am 07 Jun 13

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

No thanks, I don’t really want to live in a nanny State (or Territory). Someone who needs a maximum speed mandated for every changing condition should have their licence reconsidered. Part of driving is making decisions about what is safe, even if it means going slower than the posted limit. If a driver needs someone else to dictate this for them, we might be better off if they went back to a Learner class licence as it seems they need a properly licensed driver to supervise them at all times.

Innovation said :

milkman said :

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

Good list but was your omission of the need to “slow down and, potentially, drive significantly below the speed limit” deliberate or accidental?

Nah, that’s nonsense – we all know you should drive faster to get home quicker because, statistically, the less time you spend on the road, the less chance you have of being in a collision 🙂

Innovation Innovation 8:08 am 07 Jun 13

milkman said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

Good list but was your omission of the need to “slow down and, potentially, drive significantly below the speed limit” deliberate or accidental?

milkman milkman 6:41 am 07 Jun 13

thatsnotme said :

milkman said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

And everyone could be kinder to each other all the time, and think before they speak, and always show common courtesy, and nobody would ever act like a massive dick.

But we all know that isn’t going to happen, in Canberra or anywhere else. And we also know that drivers aren’t all going to drive to the conditions. Because if 90% of the drivers on a road are driving to the conditions, there will always be the 10% who get pissed off that someone’s holding them up, and drive like idiots to somehow prove their point.

I think it makes a lot of sense that instead of seeing ACTPol’s ‘Accident on major road. Please drive to the conditions’ tweet, we’d see ‘Wet and greasy conditions. The ACT metro area has an 80km/h maximum speed limit until further notice’.

It’d be lovely if everyone just did the right thing all by themselves, not least for putting a whole heap of lawyers out of business. Can’t see it happening though.

Do you really think that people who drive like dicks ‘because they can’ are going to worry about speed limits? As it is most people drive a few km/h over and slow down for the speed cameras.

thatsnotme thatsnotme 9:36 pm 06 Jun 13

milkman said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

And everyone could be kinder to each other all the time, and think before they speak, and always show common courtesy, and nobody would ever act like a massive dick.

But we all know that isn’t going to happen, in Canberra or anywhere else. And we also know that drivers aren’t all going to drive to the conditions. Because if 90% of the drivers on a road are driving to the conditions, there will always be the 10% who get pissed off that someone’s holding them up, and drive like idiots to somehow prove their point.

I think it makes a lot of sense that instead of seeing ACTPol’s ‘Accident on major road. Please drive to the conditions’ tweet, we’d see ‘Wet and greasy conditions. The ACT metro area has an 80km/h maximum speed limit until further notice’.

It’d be lovely if everyone just did the right thing all by themselves, not least for putting a whole heap of lawyers out of business. Can’t see it happening though.

Wily_Bear Wily_Bear 8:00 pm 06 Jun 13

milkman said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

And stop texting.

KB1971 KB1971 7:30 pm 06 Jun 13

milkman said :

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

X Eleventybillion!

milkman milkman 5:54 pm 06 Jun 13

steveu said :

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

When it rains, Canberrans could tailgate less, put their lights on and take care.

steveu steveu 5:21 pm 06 Jun 13

when it rains, speed limit on the parkway should be 80.

Aeek Aeek 3:35 pm 06 Jun 13

and a rollover reported today http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/man-hospitalised-after-kambah-rollover-20130606-2ns1q.html

Have they improved this road lately by installing a launching ramp ?

Tetranitrate Tetranitrate 9:17 am 03 Jun 13

pptvb said :

KB1971 said :

Felix the Cat said :

Seriously, how do they manage to have a crash on one of the straightest and smoothest roads in Canberra?

Quite easy in the rain, the Tuggeranong Parkway doesn’t drain particularly well and can get sheets of water on it from the drain points in the concrete barriers. I have a few hairy moments with water on that road.

+1
It is very easy to aquaplane on the stretch between Cotter Rd and Hindmarsh Dr

Yeah, and it doesn’t help that that area was ‘resealed’ a year or two ago and ended up with a worse surface than it had before.

bundah bundah 9:11 am 03 Jun 13

Felix the Cat said :

Seriously, how do they manage to have a crash on one of the straightest and smoothest roads in Canberra?

Elementary Felix,throw the word ‘human’ into the mix and voila,anything’s possible..

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